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The Windows 8.1 Preview Start Button Is an 的nsult to...

  1. #21


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    Win 8 Pro 64 bit


    I really don't care about the button, I just demand that my tea is hot.

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  2. #22


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    Win 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by acr731 View Post
    Its not a "Start" button in the traditional sense. Left click sends you back to the metro interface and right-clicking will bring up a menu for options normally found in the control panel. Definitely not what people expected from Microsoft when they said they were bringing back the start button. Its like they spit in everyone's face instead.
    Besides the aesthetic differences, can anyone tell me what you can do with the Start button that you can't do with the Metro UI? As far as I can see the two are exactly equivalent: they show the same information, they respond to the same keystrokes, they have the same organization, etc. You can search from either by just typing what you want, open applications, everything. The only difference I see is that with the start button you can still see your desktop while selecting from the menu, vs. the one in Windows 8 being easier to use with touch but forcing you to lose the desktop from view. I hardly see that this difference causes all the fuss, so what am I missing?
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  3. #23


    Posts : 94
    Windows 7


    You know what's funny? The new Win10 hybrid start menu now looks like a page out of those magazines with small square ads on the side column. I'll never shake off that "magazine look" which is why I might avoid w10 4ever if it isn't a free upgrade from 8.1, which I don't think it will be.

    Btw, I predict the next fad would be in w10, you get paid for putting up with small ads in place of those metro tiles on the start menu...
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  4. #24


    Quote Originally Posted by eatup View Post
    You know what's funny? The new Win10 hybrid start menu now looks like a page out of those magazines with small square ads on the side column. I'll never shake off that "magazine look" which is why I might avoid w10 4ever if it isn't a free upgrade from 8.1, which I don't think it will be.

    Btw, I predict the next fad would be in w10, you get paid for putting up with small ads in place of those metro tiles on the start menu...
    I guess I'll never know. I've been using ClassicShell for so long now I don't think it matters what MS does with there start button. I only had Win 8 loaded as a dual boot for a month or so and went back to Win 7. My Wife's HP Touch screen kept win 8 through the update to 8.1 and update. My notebook I moved to 8.1 the update clean installs. I never thought twice about not putting on ClassicShell First thing I loaded after windows. It been 2 years now for my wife with a touch screen and she does not multitask with multi window for her its 1 window full screen full time so she still wanted ClassicShell installed after the upgrade to 8.1 and again after the update. I don't think were going to go to windows smart phone. We have become used to Android and unless google does something stupid to screw that up. We'll stay right were we are for smart phones and tablets. For me I have 6 tabs open in IE and MS Word and MS Excel, Outlook , SnagIt, and others at different times, four gadgets all running that I' using full time Metro don't work for me nor will it in the near future.
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  5. #25


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    I really do not understand why people want to hang on to the old stuff or simulate it with programs like classic shell. And let's not even talk about this terrible hybrid in 10.

    The 8.1 start page is ideal. It is highly customizable, can accommodate all those shortcut icons that used to clutter up the desktop and is pleasant to look at.

    And the Apps page certainly beats All Programs. It is a lot easier to read and you see a lot more apps at one time. If they only would bring them all in alphabetical order and not have first class apps and second class apps.
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  6. #26


    Posts : 94
    Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I really do not understand why people want to hang on to the old stuff or simulate it with programs like classic shell. And let's not even talk about this terrible hybrid in 10.

    The 8.1 start page is ideal. It is highly customizable, can accommodate all those shortcut icons that used to clutter up the desktop and is pleasant to look at.

    And the Apps page certainly beats All Programs. It is a lot easier to read and you see a lot more apps at one time. If they only would bring them all in alphabetical order and not have first class apps and second class apps.
    XP is still my go-to OS. When I want fast upload speed to OneDrive, or take advantage of super-fast download servers, which somehow only Win7+ wi-fi connectivity can fully utilize, then I briefly go there.

    When you're not actively uploading/downloading stuff over wi-fi, XP is one of those OSes that is good enuf 4ever, if your system has drivers for it...
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  7. #27


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    You must be kidding me. I would not want a prehistoric primitive XP. Those times are long gone.
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  8. #28


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I really do not understand why people want to hang on to the old stuff or simulate it with programs like classic shell. And let's not even talk about this terrible hybrid in 10.

    The 8.1 start page is ideal. It is highly customizable, can accommodate all those shortcut icons that used to clutter up the desktop and is pleasant to look at.

    And the Apps page certainly beats All Programs. It is a lot easier to read and you see a lot more apps at one time. If they only would bring them all in alphabetical order and not have first class apps and second class apps.
    I agree - IF the apps work all the time. However, I have had problems with the apps not working properly from time to time and it really is an annoyance. I still cannot get The Weather Channel App to work no matter how I try.

    I guess it's all where each user places importance and/or how technical he/she is. My spouse could never exist without Classic Start Menu and doesn't care to try - lol. I like the Start Page and agree about it cleaning up the clutter on the desktop. Each user just needs to see what's available and use the things that best suits their individual needs.
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  9. #29



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    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 2,288
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    My 2 cents: I like the start screen and apps screen but I don't need them or a start menu in windows 8.1. I use the Desktop toolbar in the taskbar with the slide menus and have desktop icons turned off because I can see them in the toolbar also. And when there# something that' not there that I need like "Snipping Tool" I just use search like I did in windows 7's start menu.
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  10. #30


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    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    My 2 cents: I like the start screen and apps screen but I don't need them or a start menu in windows 8.1. I use the Desktop toolbar in the taskbar with the slide menus and have desktop icons turned off because I can see them in the toolbar also. And when there# something that' not there that I need like "Snipping Tool" I just use search like I did in windows 7's start menu.
    That is a good additional resource.

    Toolbars - How to Use in Windows 7 and Vista - Windows 7 Help Forums
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