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Windows 8.1 'Blue' preview: It beats Windows 8

  1. #31


    USA
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    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by McRuff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Hi jimbo,
    T I don't mind signing in with Microsoft account but I feel slight discomfort as if I'm being watched.
    many people on meds feel the same way .
    Nothing at all with a healthy dose of Paranoia. With both Microsoft and Google I stay logged out as much as possible. After all you are the "product" on their free services.

    I cannot see any reason to make life even easier for them or the NSA
    If you visit the internet, use a cell phone, or even go outside someone is watching. Might not be right or fair, but it is the reality we live in. With that I say live life and stop worrying... they've already go enough info on us already

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  2. #32


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Hi jimbo,
    There's no option to sign in with local account when you install with iso image on a separate partition, I don't mind signing in with Microsoft account but I feel slight discomfort as if I'm being watched.

    Agree.

    You can switch to a local account and turn off some of the other spying , eg, smartcreen.
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  3. #33


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Last time I was on a plane an English guy said to me -- How can you tell that there's a load of "Aussies" on this flight -- answer -- we've landed, the captain has switched the Engines off but the Whining hasn't stopped. !!!!
    That's strange. Last time I was meeting someone arriving at the international airport, a guy from Iceland came up to me and asked if I could give him a dollar as he needed it for his fare to get back home.

    I gave him $10,000 and told him to take 9,999 of his mates with him for the crime of telling pathetic jokes.


    Then there was the story of the Icelandic man who installed central heating in his igloo and when it "burnt" down, (melted), tried to claim it on insurance.

    Jimbo methinks the cold in your igloo has affected the brain cells mate. Or was it one too many blubber juices?
    Last edited by Mustang; 30 Jun 2013 at 03:43.
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  4. #34


    Australia
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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by realitykid View Post
    Just realize that Microsoft isn't going to go back. They're just going to go forward by refining the user interface.
    And when they've finished refining it to get ultimate performance and efficiency it will look exactly like the Windows 7 GUI ... and not a Tablet/Smartfone GUI. Already the smaller tiles are starting to mimic normal desktop icons. All Metro needs now is a traditional start menu.

    In terms of efficiency Winy7 GUI leaves W8 for dead. The most M$ can hope for is the most efficient Tablet GUI. But compared to Win7 it's chalk and cheese.

    Sure horses for courses, but give traditional desktop users the course they want ... and keep Metro for those who want it.

    But no, Mighty Mouse M$ know what's best for us. Yeah, in ya dreams!
    Last edited by Mustang; 30 Jun 2013 at 03:45.
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  5. #35


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Only time will tell


    Quote Originally Posted by realitykid View Post
    Just realize that Microsoft isn't going to go back. They're just going to go forward by refining the user interface.
    That remains to be seen.

    If W8.1 is a wild success, then MS will keep pushing tablet GUIs onto everyone's PCs.

    If it bombs like W8, then a lot of people will lose their jobs (hopefully only upper management) and MS will give up on it and return to a more traditional GUI.
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  6. #36


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Hi jimbo,
    There's no option to sign in with local account when you install with iso image on a separate partition, I don't mind signing in with Microsoft account but I feel slight discomfort as if I'm being watched.

    Agree.

    You can switch to a local account and turn off some of the other spying , eg, smartcreen.
    Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it a try.
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  7. #37


    South Coast NSW, Australia
    Posts : 615
    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Hi jimbo,
    There's no option to sign in with local account when you install with iso image on a separate partition, I don't mind signing in with Microsoft account but I feel slight discomfort as if I'm being watched.

    Agree.

    You can switch to a local account and turn off some of the other spying , eg, smartcreen.
    Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it a try.

    You can create a local account, but as yet I have not been able to create an Admin account (apart from the MS one), only 'user' accounts..

    Not much use to me, so I stayed on the MS account. I'll play around with it some more when the setup is complete (well, the OS and some programs are installed, but there's still lots more to do).


    Wenda.
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  8. #38


    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post


    Agree.

    You can switch to a local account and turn off some of the other spying , eg, smartcreen.
    Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give it a try.

    You can create a local account, but as yet I have not been able to create an Admin account (apart from the MS one), only 'user' accounts..

    Not much use to me, so I stayed on the MS account. I'll play around with it some more when the setup is complete (well, the OS and some programs are installed, but there's still lots more to do).


    Wenda.
    I changed the Local account to Admin from Standard type but when I log in with local account some features won't preform well enough, for example Frequent sites won't load correctly for me, so I also continue to use Microsoft account, I feel the pain of screw tightening
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  9. #39


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by vrosa View Post
    Do you really think that most of us are incapable ! Most people here, including those who complain about Windows 8/8.1, can adapt to any innovation or change. What is being discussed here is that we do know what is better for us, not Microsoft or any other company. Innovation is good, but listening to the consumers is a way to demonstrate respect. Don't get me wrong, but you went wrong with your words.
    "The Customer is always right" has been proven to be a fallacy. The problem is, which customer? What happens one two customers are contradictory? What happens when a customer demands things that are unreasonable? What happens when a customer just doesn't understand the reasons for a change? What happens when a customer demands things that violate the law?

    That last one is important. Did you know that Windows must meet legal requirements for disabled users? That means providing high contrast themes for those with color blindness or cataracts.. That means providing API's for screen readers for the blind. That means making the user interface work better for people with poor motor skills.

    The change to the start menu was not 100% driven by tablets.. there were many other factors, such as the fact that the start menu became unusable after a certain number of applications were installed, and the fact that it was difficult to navigate by people with motor control issues. Tablets were another reason, of course, and was key in defining the way the new start screen was designed, but the move away from the old menu was something that would have happened regardless.

    The old start menu is dead, and will never come back (officially) from Microsoft, and no matter how much people whine or complain, it won't change it. They have many reasons for ditching the old menu, and some of them have legal repercussions.

    The fact is, Microsoft can't "listen to the customer" because for every customer that wants A, another customer hates A. So saying that listening is a sign of respect just doesn't understand how customer service actually works.
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  10. #40


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    You can create a local account, but as yet I have not been able to create an Admin account (apart from the MS one), only 'user' accounts..
    Maybe i'm missing something, but what's wrong with creating a new account, going into the account properties and changing it from Standard to Administrator?

    I do notice that if you use the Metro UI to change the user to Administrator, I get "an error occurred". But if you open up the Manage Accounts applet from control panel, you can do so without a problem. this is most likely a bug. It also does the same thing if you try to change from Administrator to Standard.
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