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Windows 8.1 'Blue' preview: It beats Windows 8

  1. #21


    South Coast NSW, Australia
    Posts : 615
    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    eNuff about that start button. We pretty much knew it was going to be a Start Screen Shortcut which Brink has made available from here "Start" Screen Shortcut - Create in Windows 8 since day 1.

    The one aggravating factor about 98, XP, Vista & 7 was after logging in to the desktop and programs are loading. Being in a hurry and familiar with what I needed from start menu. I would click the start button, the menu would pop out and before I could click an item on the menu, a program finished loading and the menu disappeared.
    That has not happened in 8 because we log into the start menu and it opens on the desktop. (Unless it is a Modern App)

    Why is nobody commenting about the new tile controls that are suppose to be available in 8.1 ?

    Why is nobody commenting about the new split portion sizes and multiple windows on the Modern side ?


    In my case, because:

    A/ I don't consider them to be improvements, merely moving deck-chairs. Small tiles did look good till I discovered that they wouldn't work on real programs, only 'apps'. The split-screen aspect of Metro is irrelevant, as I do not attempt to do serious work anywhere but the desktop, with any number of multiple, resizeable WINDOWS (remember them?) open. This will not be changing.

    B/ That blasted "cloud' mentality overarches the whole OS, and I want NO part of that.

    C/ The serious (desktop) user is still under the bus.

    D/ They appear to have deliberately broken the fixes developed to rectify the mistakes they made in 8 and compounded in 8.1.


    I could tolerate/work around most of the non-improvements, but will not countenance the blatant, in-your-face net-centricity of 8.1.

    I hated the little of that there was in 8, so 8.1 won't be getting a look-in. I simply can't be bothered going through all the rigmarole again just to get a usable OS without the rubbish.

    Sorry, not impressed at all. I'll be staying on Win 7/8.0. 8.1 may go into my OS collection in V-Box as a curiosity (then I can easily cut off net-access), but that'll be about it at this stage.


    Wenda.
    Last edited by Wenda; 28 Jun 2013 at 17:58.

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  2. #22


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post

    Why is nobody commenting about the new tile controls that are suppose to be available in 8.1 ?

    Why is nobody commenting about the new split portion sizes and multiple windows on the Modern side ?
    Might be because not many like the Metro side of Window 8.
    As Sherlock Holmes was want to say: Elementary my dear Watson!"
    Blind man on a galloping horse could see that!

    @ pcRat What you say is like a salesman pointing out all the great navigating features on a boat, when the buyer wants a car with a SAT/NAV.
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  3. #23


    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    eNuff about that start button. We pretty much knew it was going to be a Start Screen Shortcut which Brink has made available from here "Start" Screen Shortcut - Create in Windows 8 since day 1.

    The one aggravating factor about 98, XP, Vista & 7 was after logging in to the desktop and programs are loading. Being in a hurry and familiar with what I needed from start menu. I would click the start button, the menu would pop out and before I could click an item on the menu, a program finished loading and the menu disappeared.
    That has not happened in 8 because we log into the start menu and it opens on the desktop. (Unless it is a Modern App)

    Why is nobody commenting about the new tile controls that are suppose to be available in 8.1 ?

    Why is nobody commenting about the new split portion sizes and multiple windows on the Modern side ?
    May be they are pretty much useless to many as they haven't got the devices to try them or want to use those features.
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  4. #24


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    Well it WORKS for me. OK not perfect but perfectly useable (needs a little work though and that's what Ms really needs to do - make the OOB experience better).

    It's NOT Windows 7 -- and for those that want a Windows 7 interface -- STAY ON THAT SYSTEM.

    I'm quite happy to have an OS that works with NEWER devices too -- I don't even mind some touch stuff on a laptop (but don't even THINK of putting your fingers anywhere near my large LCD screen !!).

    I really don't have any problems running ANY classic desktop application just like I ran it in W7 (or earlier). OK it means re-arranging some of the tiles and messing around tidying up after installing applications but that's usually a ONE OFF type of job. Boot to desktop also removes any of the start screen irritation I might have and using a custom toolbar gives me a decent "menu" type of system as well without needing any 3rd party stuff. (Scrshot shown below)

    I don't mind being able to have some dynamically changing applications viewable at the same time as doing ordinary work --for example if you are interested in Stock Market data it's quite nice to have a Real time streaming data app on your desktop INDEPENDANT of any your broker might have provided.

    @ Brummyfan -- regarding Metro stuff.

    The main problem with the current crop of Metro apps is that they are essentially RUBBISH -- probably written by some sub-teens who have yet to experience a REAL WORKPLACE and also through no fault of their own haven't got any experience of what people might want as REAL applications that are better than games and small apps suitable for running on Mobile Phones. I expect though some to be quite good soon -- as happened with Gadgets in VISTA / W7 -- the original ones were just junk too.

    The application INSTALL process is better in W 8.1 than W8 but it still needs to be tidied up.

    However W8.1 is definitely an improvement over W8 -- although still IMO not a totally finished product yet.

    I'm also not sure what the problem is with The Cloud -- I'm not using it and I can't see anywhere in W8 or W8.1 where you are forced in any way to have ANYTHING to do with it if you don't want to -- just use a LOCAL account when you install the OS.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #25


    Hi jimbo,
    There's no option to sign in with local account when you install with iso image on a separate partition, I don't mind signing in with Microsoft account but I feel slight discomfort as if I'm being watched.
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  6. #26


    Well, there is new news everyday about same thing, so basically in all these news discussions are the same. There is one thing, that could change it (about windows 8), but i bet this world wouldnt like it veeeery much, so. Nothing in this world goes as it should or as we want, and there is no peaceful way to change it, and even that other way is not much of a solution, as it would expand to much and there wouldnt left anyone.
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  7. #27


    New Zealand
    Posts : 91
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1


    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Hi jimbo,
    There's no option to sign in with local account when you install with iso image on a separate partition, I don't mind signing in with Microsoft account but I feel slight discomfort as if I'm being watched.
    You can actually sign in locally when you install from an ISO, they just hid it. If you enter an invalid Microsoft account ID when you are prompted, it will return an error and the installer will give you the option of signing in locally or retrying. I found this by mistake because I stuffed up my password with a valid email address.
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  8. #28


    Arnhem, The Netherlands
    Posts : 1,412
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Media Center Edition


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Boot to desktop also removes any of the start screen irritation I might have and using a custom toolbar gives me a decent "menu" type of system as well without needing any 3rd party stuff. (Scrshot shown below)
    Hi Jimbo!

    Cool sollution you have there with the custom toolbar.

    I've one question about it. Did you link the custom toolbar to some already excisting directory? Or did you first create the 'menu' yourself in some directory?


    Greetz,

    Rover
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  9. #29


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Hi jimbo,
    T I don't mind signing in with Microsoft account but I feel slight discomfort as if I'm being watched.
    many people on meds feel the same way .
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  10. #30


    New Zealand
    Posts : 91
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Hi jimbo,
    T I don't mind signing in with Microsoft account but I feel slight discomfort as if I'm being watched.
    many people on meds feel the same way .
    Nothing at all with a healthy dose of Paranoia. With both Microsoft and Google I stay logged out as much as possible. After all you are the "product" on their free services.

    I cannot see any reason to make life even easier for them or the NSA
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