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Windows 8.1 first look: Finally, Windows the way you want

  1. #51


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    I don't want to have to use a third party program. I am planning to stay with 7, until Microsoft decides to listen to the millions of users. Especially users that aren't social media groupies but rather want a stable system that functions in the work place, like 7. Perhaps it will take 8.2, 8.3, etc, eventually they will come around, and give us our desk top and start button back. But, why is it always like pulling teeth!

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  2. #52


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    Win 7 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by bgraae View Post
    I don't want to have to use a third party program. I am planning to stay with 7, until Microsoft decides to listen to the millions of users. Especially users that aren't social media groupies but rather want a stable system that functions in the work place, like 7. Perhaps it will take 8.2, 8.3, etc, eventually they will come around, and give us our desk top and start button back. But, why is it always like pulling teeth!

    That's one of the things I dislike about Win 8/8.1. Is it really that difficult to add the option to switch to a desktop with Win 7 functionality and appearance for those that prefer that look? If they did that one little thing I would switch to Win 8, and I assume many others would do the same. Why are they being buttheads and refusing to put it in Win 8 and 8.1?
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  3. #53


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Add me to that list. It's not what I want, it's marginally better in some areas.
    I concur. While it's an improvement, and I hope to see even more improvements in the final version, it isn't enough to lure me away from Windows 7.
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  4. #54


    Quote Originally Posted by bgraae View Post
    OK, I still have the same questions. I love 7. I need to be able to boot up directly to the desktop I currently have. I need a start button that will give me all the abilities my current one has. I want to be able to go to current programs, change them, and delete them. I need to be able to go to computers to see what is on the disk and to manipulate the programs. I don't see that in 8.1. Why don't they listen to the users that need the functions of 7, not the functions of the social media groupies.
    Move the cursor to the left bottom of the screen(or the Start button), right click and from the menu you could perform most of the functions you mentioned.

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  5. #55


    Posts : 10
    windows7


    Terry, I fully agree. I will stay with 7, until they truly listen and don't true to "improve" with a patch quilt approach.
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  6. #56


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    One more time people. It's not going to happen.

    Do you know why it's not going to happen? Because Microsoft has "end of lifed" the desktop as we know it. It's going away. Windows 8 was the death knell. All future releases of windows will make the traditional desktop less and less relevant and less and less functional. Win32 apps will still be supported for a long time to come, but the desktop itself will not be.

    Metro will become the desktop.

    Now, before you get yourselves in a tizzy, that doesn't mean the Metro we have today will be the desktop. Metro will continue to evolve and add functionality. At some point in the future when Metro is able to do all the duties of the desktop, the traditional desktop will be shut off permanently. This is the direction that Windows is going, and nothing is going to stop that at this point. Microsoft has invested billions into this already, and will invest billions more.

    Either you get on board, or you're just going to be frustrated for all eternity.

    The reason for this? Because Metro apps can run on any platform. Win32 apps cannot. Metro apps can be ARM based, or x86 based, or x64 based, or Itanium based, or any other processor and memory architecture they want. It can run on phones, or tablets, or desktops, or giant NOC systems with 100 foot screens. There are too many technical advantages for Microsoft in this. Servers are going ARM based, for instance... particularly in the blade market.

    This is not just a case of pretty pictures and arbitrary UI choices. There are thousands of technical reasons for these changes and more importantly, there's lots of MONEY behind these changes. These changes will make Microsoft TRILLIONS of dollars over the next 25 years. Staying on Win32 on x86 will not, and will eventually put them out to pasture. They are NOT going back.

    If you actually want to be an active part of the future of Windows, complaining about change will not get you there. I would suggest that you instead concentrate on ways to make Metro work for you, and suggestions on how to improve the Metro side of things to meet your needs. That's far more constructive than repeatedly complaining about something that is 100% guaranteed to never happen.
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  7. #57


    At the rate Window 8 is being adopted it will be an eternity before that happens. That is if M$ still is around.

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  8. #58


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    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    One more time people. It's not going to happen.

    Do you know why it's not going to happen? Because Microsoft has "end of lifed" the desktop as we know it. It's going away. Windows 8 was the death knell. All future releases of windows will make the traditional desktop less and less relevant and less and less functional. Win32 apps will still be supported for a long time to come, but the desktop itself will not be.

    Metro will become the desktop.

    Now, before you get yourselves in a tizzy, that doesn't mean the Metro we have today will be the desktop. Metro will continue to evolve and add functionality. At some point in the future when Metro is able to do all the duties of the desktop, the traditional desktop will be shut off permanently. This is the direction that Windows is going, and nothing is going to stop that at this point. Microsoft has invested billions into this already, and will invest billions more.

    Either you get on board, or you're just going to be frustrated for all eternity.

    The reason for this? Because Metro apps can run on any platform. Win32 apps cannot. Metro apps can be ARM based, or x86 based, or x64 based, or Itanium based, or any other processor and memory architecture they want. It can run on phones, or tablets, or desktops, or giant NOC systems with 100 foot screens. There are too many technical advantages for Microsoft in this. Servers are going ARM based, for instance... particularly in the blade market.

    This is not just a case of pretty pictures and arbitrary UI choices. There are thousands of technical reasons for these changes and more importantly, there's lots of MONEY behind these changes. These changes will make Microsoft TRILLIONS of dollars over the next 25 years. Staying on Win32 on x86 will not, and will eventually put them out to pasture. They are NOT going back.

    If you actually want to be an active part of the future of Windows, complaining about change will not get you there. I would suggest that you instead concentrate on ways to make Metro work for you, and suggestions on how to improve the Metro side of things to meet your needs. That's far more constructive than repeatedly complaining about something that is 100% guaranteed to never happen.
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  9. #59


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    One more time people. It's not going to happen.

    Do you know why it's not going to happen? Because Microsoft has "end of lifed" the desktop as we know it. It's going away. Windows 8 was the death knell. All future releases of windows will make the traditional desktop less and less relevant and less and less functional. Win32 apps will still be supported for a long time to come, but the desktop itself will not be.

    Metro will become the desktop.

    Now, before you get yourselves in a tizzy, that doesn't mean the Metro we have today will be the desktop. Metro will continue to evolve and add functionality. At some point in the future when Metro is able to do all the duties of the desktop, the traditional desktop will be shut off permanently. This is the direction that Windows is going, and nothing is going to stop that at this point. Microsoft has invested billions into this already, and will invest billions more.

    Either you get on board, or you're just going to be frustrated for all eternity.

    The reason for this? Because Metro apps can run on any platform. Win32 apps cannot. Metro apps can be ARM based, or x86 based, or x64 based, or Itanium based, or any other processor and memory architecture they want. It can run on phones, or tablets, or desktops, or giant NOC systems with 100 foot screens. There are too many technical advantages for Microsoft in this. Servers are going ARM based, for instance... particularly in the blade market.

    This is not just a case of pretty pictures and arbitrary UI choices. There are thousands of technical reasons for these changes and more importantly, there's lots of MONEY behind these changes. These changes will make Microsoft TRILLIONS of dollars over the next 25 years. Staying on Win32 on x86 will not, and will eventually put them out to pasture. They are NOT going back.

    If you actually want to be an active part of the future of Windows, complaining about change will not get you there. I would suggest that you instead concentrate on ways to make Metro work for you, and suggestions on how to improve the Metro side of things to meet your needs. That's far more constructive than repeatedly complaining about something that is 100% guaranteed to never happen.
    Hm... while I'm not disputing your prediction, I'm a bit scared. The desktop has been around long enough for there to be millions of apps specifically written for it. Don't get me wrong, I'm contributing to metro as we speak. Working like a dog to get an app ready for publication.

    Having said that, metro sure is a lot closer to lcars than the desktop. My childhood dream is becoming reality.
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  10. #60


    New Zealand
    Posts : 91
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1


    I know this is Microsoft's dream, but we are not going to give up without a fight. My prediction is their dream will more then likely turn into a nightmare.

    Not all of us are Quislings.
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