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Windows 8.1 first look: Finally, Windows the way you want

  1. #201


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post
    Yes, I know but the fact is that Win 8 is very buggy. On our forum we just found that it defrags SSD as if it were an HDD.
    I just wonder WHY destroy an excellent OS like Win 7 ??
    Last, I found the GUI look horrible with these "fluo" colors, don't you?
    Yes, 7 is more stable now because it has been around for years with thousands of updates. Even so, 7 is not perfect. 8 is not perfect either. It has benefits and disadvantages. The metro can get very messy. I hide folders and files to clean it up. It is true, if you are using a desktop normally, a touch UI is not needed. ... yes, Aero was a nice feature. (is a nice feature)

    There's alot not to like about 8. Not a fan of logging into a Microsoft Server everyday during login.
    I did a re-install using a local account only. No skydrive.

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  2. #202


    Posts : 47
    Win 8 (?)


    Quote Originally Posted by jacatdilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post
    Sorry Microsoft... this is THE Windows the way I WANT (until 2020)...

    Attachment 24729

    ... and seems I'm not the only one...
    Looking back, the start menu looks kind of funny.
    A big box with some kind of appendage at it's top.
    What was MS thinking.
    Granted, it sure could cram in a lot of menu.
    Every installed program would put shortcuts here, there, and everywhere,
    until it was a convoluted mess of duplication.
    Once a month it would need a trim or haircut.
    It was good, but not good enough for another seven years.
    Na na na na hey hey Goodbye.

    I like how 8.1 does not put all the extra program shortcuts on start screen.
    I decide what shows up, my control, yes.
    That's what Microsoft says... actually, i.e. with SmartScreen, they'll collect everything you'll do/install on the OS... as NEVER before.
    I disagree with the "new" Microsoft way
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  3. #203


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post
    Yes, I know but the fact is that Win 8 is very buggy. On our forum we just found that it defrags SSD as if it were an HDD.
    No it doesn't. I have no spinners, and to date the defrag program has yet to attempt a defrag on my three SSD's (been using 8 since Developer Preview)
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  4. #204


    Posts : 17
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center 64-bit


    *I never had a problem with SSD defragging by itself. I can force it though. OS should detect and not defrag.

    *I agree. I don't like it the way they are monitoring everything.
    Case in point:
    My regular Win8 drive is not using Skydrive. I don't upload anything to the cloud.
    I have a cropped desktop background wallpaper of an island with snow on it.
    I downloaded Win8.1 iso, burnt it to disc. Shutdown computer. Physically removed Win8 hard drive.
    I connected up a different formatted hard drive. Booted up and installed Win 8.1. Logged in with same name, password as Win8.
    Then I notice maybe 5 to 15 minutes later, the exact same cropped snow picture shows up on the Win 8.1 desktop.
    I got kind of jolted, how could Win8.1 do that without any other drives attached?
    Then it hit me, MS must have synched the desktop from Win 8 drive. I never told it to do it.
    So even though I am not putting anything in cloud, MS has decided to do it for me.
    So much for being in control.
    I could see this could make for embarrassing consequences if out in public,
    and ones second computer boots up to show a personal picture on desktop, for all to see!
    I almost want to reformat and see if it happens again.
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  5. #205


    Covington, La
    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    Quote Originally Posted by jacatdilly View Post
    *I never had a problem with SSD defragging by itself. I can force it though. OS should detect and not defrag.

    *I agree. I don't like it the way they are monitoring everything.
    Case in point:
    My regular Win8 drive is not using Skydrive. I don't upload anything to the cloud.
    I have a cropped desktop background wallpaper of an island with snow on it.
    I downloaded Win8.1 iso, burnt it to disc. Shutdown computer. Physically removed Win8 hard drive.
    I connected up a different formatted hard drive. Booted up and installed Win 8.1. Logged in with same name, password as Win8.
    Then I notice maybe 5 to 15 minutes later, the exact same cropped snow picture shows up on the Win 8.1 desktop.
    I got kind of jolted, how could Win8.1 do that without any other drives attached?
    Then it hit me, MS must have synched the desktop from Win 8 drive. I never told it to do it.
    So even though I am not putting anything in cloud, MS has decided to do it for me.
    So much for being in control.
    I could see this could make for embarrassing consequences if out in public,
    and ones second computer boots up to show a personal picture on desktop, for all to see!
    I almost want to reformat and see if it happens again.
    Are you using a Live account or Local account. If using a Live account and you are on the same computer with the same login maybe that is why it synced.

    Jim
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  6. #206


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post
    Yes, I know but the fact is that Win 8 is very buggy. On our forum we just found that it defrags SSD as if it were an HDD.
    I just wonder WHY destroy an excellent OS like Win 7 ??
    Last, I found the GUI look horrible with these "fluo" colors, don't you?
    That's simply not true. Windows 8 detects SSD's and performs a TRIM operation on them when defragging rather than a traditional TRIM. However, this is dependent upon the drive supporting TRIM, and in some cases that is not the case.. for instance, when combining multiple SSD's in a RAID array, TRIM is not currently supported (though I hear one of the new Intel SSD's will support this). This is a problem with the SSD technology, not with Windows 8.
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  7. #207


    Most mobo's after the z68 now have trim in R0. Some require a particular bios and some don't but most if not all newer mobo's do have trim in an R0 array.
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  8. #208


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Only if you use a modified option ROM. Most people don't have that.
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  9. #209


    being the windows user form the very start at the time when i was new to the computing i expect the upgrade of upcoming of the existing win version come with the refined specs and proves most productive for its users
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  10. #210


    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post
    Yes, I know but the fact is that Win 8 is very buggy. On our forum we just found that it defrags SSD as if it were an HDD.
    I just wonder WHY destroy an excellent OS like Win 7 ??
    Last, I found the GUI look horrible with these "fluo" colors, don't you?
    Not true, Win8 triggers Trim for SSDs (instead of defrag) when " out of the box" and installed anew. Although there are some bugs I find Win8 somewhat more stable than Win7 but expecting any OS (or even applications) is highly optimistic but to say "buggy" is a bit of a stretch. Looking back just couple of generations, XP, without the SPs was a veritable "Bug city", Vista was a driver nightmare and 7 in the very beginning also had problems with newest hardware and software. Except for "Metro" and lack of start menu I doubt that too meny people would notice difference. For the "eye candy" I never had any use, always kept a nice simple picture on the desktop, just enough so it would not be a plain color but enough to give some contrast to icons. Insisting on perceived "beauty" is just plain childish but most people used third party stuff for that anyway. What do you think, why there are thousands upon thousands of themes on the net for all the windows out there.
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