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Windows 8.1 first look: Finally, Windows the way you want

  1. #191


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    Mystere sometimes i get mails with a PDF attachment, so i need to open that.

    Also i invoices towards my clients and they always ask a PDF document.
    But that wasn't your complaint. You said you need to convert to PDF because you had to send excel documents to Open Office users, but that's just not true since OpenOffice can open Excel documents.

    Yes, of course having PDF functionality is useful, I was just questioning your reasons.

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  2. #192


    Posts : 17
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center 64-bit


    Finally Windows, the way you want
    Almost.
    I like Windows 8 and 8.1, for all the extra fast response, usually very stable, but here are my gripes.
    I do find it hard that they took away the extras, that were important to me.
    *System restore does not always work. I hate it when it reboots and it says restore could not complete, try another restore point, and all were tried. Bummer.
    So Win 7 file recovery backup was the the only feature that worked 100% for me. In Win8.1, they have removed it.
    Will now have to install third party free image backup program like Easeus or Macrium, along with it's own bootable WinPE.
    Is there still a way?

    *Desktop Solitaire removed. Come on. It was the most used pc game and works smoother than any Metro app. Had to to copy over from Win 7.
    *Desktop Gadgets removed. Granted, most were really scrappily made. I still love Weather Channel gadget, had to hack it back in there to work.
    *Media Center removed. I still have a tv tuner that used Win7 media center to watch tv from bed. Luckily the key was free at the time and put back in. Not sure if key will work on 8.1
    *I do find that smaller tile icons on 8.1 start screen can be good and bad.
    Good that they are small and not in one's face, but bad because there is no text to read, only a tiny picture inside tile.
    Can be a confusing guessing game, when a program uses the same tile picture for different functions, and nothing to differentiate them.

    * It makes me put in a password each boot. I am at home alone, password not required. In Win8, I had to turn it off, but now will not let me go into safe mode, advanced startup. Really nuts.
    In 8.1 there is an option to not use password, but still asks for password? What am I doing wrong?

    Do others have same issues?
    ps.
    What's with fish in previews, and now with animated bubbles. Is MS changing Metro to Fishtank?

    Wow. Wenda sure has a lot a OS. What about leaky LongHorn?

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  3. #193


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Funny thing is, I've never used system restore. Ever. I don't know why some people use it all the time. I've never had a need to do so. In any event, file recovery was deprecated in Windows 8, and they said they would be removing it. I've never liked using Microsoft's backup tools because they always seem to change it every version, and the new version is never compatible with the previous one. So I've always used third party tools, as it's more consistent.

    The games were removed because they intended to showcase Metro as their game solution. They'd get just as much crap from people who would complain that they weren't serious about Metro if they kept the old stuff around. Microsoft can't win no matter what they do, half of all people will complain one way or the other. Even if they do nothing.

    Desktop Gadgets were actually removed in Windows 7. Or rather, they were deprecated and a patch removed them. The reason is that they are insecure, and since Microsoft was going to Metro anyways, they chose to get rid of it rather than try to fix the problems. If you leave desktop gadgets installed, you will probably end up getting a virus or malware from it.

    Media Center was removed for licensing reasons. The same reason they removed DVD playback. I heard that their vendor jacked up the prices on them, so they removed it from Windows and made it optional for those that wanted to pay for it.

    The password issue is probably just a bug. Remember, it's beta software.

    The fish is a "Beta" fish. It's a type of tropical fish called a beta. It's used to signify beta releases of Windows. In windows 8, they had a beta fish on the desktop wallpaper.
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  4. #194


    Posts : 17
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center 64-bit


    Thanks.
    Cleared up some of the foul air.
    Beta fish. That's a relief.
    I had visions of a tile fishtank screen in 8.2, where all tiles grow fins and tails,
    start swimming randomly around the screen.
    In order to start the app, you have to catch it and put in net,
    before it slips from ones fingers!

    I guess by 8.2, MS will use eye fixation camera sensing app opener.

    *Believe me, I hardly ever used System Restore. Only when I tried to uninstall programs that wrecked the registry,
    or a registry cleaner thats pruned too much off. It let me down. Can get corrupted, where as a seperate image is a lot safer,
    as long as one remembers where it got put! Bye bye Win7 recovery. Thanks for saving my system and files, Win 7,8.
    *As for the desktop gadgets, I would assume a virus or malware would come from a poorly coded or purposely evil coded gadget.
    Weather Channel gadget has stood the test of time. I think I have only got two malware infestations on 8, not related to this.

    By the way, Win8 has got to be the safest OS I have used so far. Xp was the worst.
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  5. #195


    South Coast NSW, Australia
    Posts : 615
    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Jacatdilly wrote:
    What's with fish in previews, and now with animated bubbles. Is MS changing Metro to Fishtank?

    Wow. Wenda sure has a lot a OS. What about leaky LongHorn?
    Mystere wrote:
    The fish is a "Beta" fish. It's a type of tropical fish called a beta. It's used to signify beta releases of Windows. In windows 8, they had a beta fish on the desktop wallpaper.
    Yes, the fish is a 'Betta splendens' (scientific name, pronounced as 'better', not 'beater'), otherwise known as the Siamese Fighting Fish.

    So, 'Beta' isn't strictly correct... no biggie, though. Unless it's subtly meant to signify, not a beta version, but that the version concerned is actually 'betta' than its predecessor??

    And no, Longhorn is one I don't have (yet!).


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  6. #196


    Posts : 47
    Win 8 (?)


    Sorry Microsoft... this is THE Windows the way I WANT (until 2020)...

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    ... and seems I'm not the only one...
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  7. #197


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post
    Sorry Microsoft... this is THE Windows the way I WANT (until 2020)...
    ... and seems I'm not the only one...
    I agree, but you can have the same using 8.

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  8. #198


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    With new navigation options, the pc boots to the desktop and you can set the default to all apps only.
    Even if the apps area is a mess, it can be cleaned up. No more start screen!

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  9. #199


    Posts : 47
    Win 8 (?)


    Yes, I know but the fact is that Win 8 is very buggy. On our forum we just found that it defrags SSD as if it were an HDD.
    I just wonder WHY destroy an excellent OS like Win 7 ??
    Last, I found the GUI look horrible with these "fluo" colors, don't you?
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  10. #200


    Posts : 17
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post
    Sorry Microsoft... this is THE Windows the way I WANT (until 2020)...

    Click image for larger version

    ... and seems I'm not the only one...
    Looking back, the start menu looks kind of funny.
    A big box with some kind of appendage at it's top.
    What was MS thinking.
    Granted, it sure could cram in a lot of menu.
    Every installed program would put shortcuts here, there, and everywhere,
    until it was a convoluted mess of duplication.
    Once a month it would need a trim or haircut.
    It was good, but not good enough for another seven years.
    Na na na na hey hey Goodbye.

    I like how 8.1 does not put all the extra program shortcuts on start screen.
    I decide what shows up, my control, yes.
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