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Windows 8.1 Preview Not Working on All Computers

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by acr731 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by salim96 View Post
    ... anyways i will wait for the final version of 8.1

    I wouldn't even bother if I were you. Microsoft did very little to address the main issues customers were complaining about. For example there's the "Start" button. You boot into Windows and are taken the stupid tiles. Click on "desktop" and you will see a start button in the normal place. But here's the shocker.... click on the start button and what happens? It takes you back to the tiles that practically no one likes.

    WTF Microsoft??!!??

    Win 8.1 spent a total of 10 minutes of uptime before I restored my Win 7 image. I really wonder if Microsoft did that on purpose just to tick off the people begging for the return of the start button and start menu. What a way to give your potential customers the finger.
    (1) Spending 10 minutes with it is not something to be proud about. I've seen tech critics use this line of argument as if it gives them some kind of all-knowingness over users that have used it more extensively.

    (2) If all it takes is 10 minutes for you to dislike it so much that you had to restore the win7 image, then you probably went into it thinking you won't like it and you fulfilled your prophecy b not liking it. It's called self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Reminds of my adult picky eating boyfriend. He's a lot better nowadays, but back when he would declare he wouldn't like a certain food even though he's never tried it. When it's right in front of him, he would make a face, take a grain size piece, put it in his mouth slowly with a disgust on his face, and then say "yup, I don't like it". And I'm talking about mainstream foods like Italian and Chinese, not monkey brain or some other weird stuff. If you didn't know he was trying a new type of pizza at an expensive restaurant, just by looking at his face while he put that grain size piece in his mouth you'd think someone is forcing him to eat dog poop.

    Just sayin'. Self-fulfilling prophecy is nothing to be proud about. Right off the bat, you told us absolutely nothing about windows 8.1 other than the fact that you thought you wouldn't like it, you didn't give it a chance, and you fulfilled your own prophecy about your dislike of windows 8.1.

    (3) If you can't live without the start menu, then stick with windows 7. Why are you even on this forum? This isn't the Dictatorship of Microsoftland. You have a choice. You don't like the lack of the start menu. You don't like the start screen. Stick with 7. You're not missing much.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 16
    8 preview


    I got preview installed and it crashed at last hurdle, restored my old settings. Will wait till things settle down Off to the Jaguar Forum, got some car maintenance to perform
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  3. #13


    Posts : 87
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    I've just installed it for me
    Unfortunately, Internet Explorer 11 will not work well.
    But it is admirable.
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  4. #14


    South Coast NSW, Australia
    Posts : 615
    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by acr731 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by salim96 View Post
    ... anyways i will wait for the final version of 8.1

    I wouldn't even bother if I were you. Microsoft did very little to address the main issues customers were complaining about. For example there's the "Start" button. You boot into Windows and are taken the stupid tiles. Click on "desktop" and you will see a start button in the normal place. But here's the shocker.... click on the start button and what happens? It takes you back to the tiles that practically no one likes.

    WTF Microsoft??!!??

    Win 8.1 spent a total of 10 minutes of uptime before I restored my Win 7 image. I really wonder if Microsoft did that on purpose just to tick off the people begging for the return of the start button and start menu. What a way to give your potential customers the finger.
    (1) Spending 10 minutes with it is not something to be proud about. I've seen tech critics use this line of argument as if it gives them some kind of all-knowingness over users that have used it more extensively.

    (2) If all it takes is 10 minutes for you to dislike it so much that you had to restore the win7 image, then you probably went into it thinking you won't like it and you fulfilled your prophecy b not liking it. It's called self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Reminds of my adult picky eating boyfriend. He's a lot better nowadays, but back when he would declare he wouldn't like a certain food even though he's never tried it. When it's right in front of him, he would make a face, take a grain size piece, put it in his mouth slowly with a disgust on his face, and then say "yup, I don't like it". And I'm talking about mainstream foods like Italian and Chinese, not monkey brain or some other weird stuff. If you didn't know he was trying a new type of pizza at an expensive restaurant, just by looking at his face while he put that grain size piece in his mouth you'd think someone is forcing him to eat dog poop.

    Just sayin'. Self-fulfilling prophecy is nothing to be proud about. Right off the bat, you told us absolutely nothing about windows 8.1 other than the fact that you thought you wouldn't like it, you didn't give it a chance, and you fulfilled your own prophecy about your dislike of windows 8.1.

    (3) If you can't live without the start menu, then stick with windows 7. Why are you even on this forum? This isn't the Dictatorship of Microsoftland. You have a choice. You don't like the lack of the start menu. You don't like the start screen. Stick with 7. You're not missing much.

    Sorry, but I agree with him.

    And I've been using Win 8 since the CP was released, and love it, now that I've customised it to work my way, not Microsoft's.

    But there's nothing in Win 8.1 for me. Nothing at all. And I'm not prepared to rebuild half the OS again, just to get what I already
    have, but with that bloody 'cloud' rammed down my throat.

    No, thanks. 8.0 will do me.


    Wenda.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 122
    Windows 8 64bit Pro


    All i can say to microsoft is they are the most infantile jerks on the planet - they have totally wrecked the beauty of windows 8 for beta users - first impressions - hope they dont last rolf***>.
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  6. #16


    Madrid, Spain
    Posts : 228
    Windows 8.1 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by andyparks View Post
    stupid Microsoft again I give up sticking with windows 8 it looks like how can any body not release a English(uk)
    Yeah, I know how it feels. These rebels in the colonies always trying to irritate their metropolis.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 142
    Win 7 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by acr731 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by salim96 View Post
    ... anyways i will wait for the final version of 8.1

    I wouldn't even bother if I were you. Microsoft did very little to address the main issues customers were complaining about. For example there's the "Start" button. You boot into Windows and are taken the stupid tiles. Click on "desktop" and you will see a start button in the normal place. But here's the shocker.... click on the start button and what happens? It takes you back to the tiles that practically no one likes.

    WTF Microsoft??!!??

    Win 8.1 spent a total of 10 minutes of uptime before I restored my Win 7 image. I really wonder if Microsoft did that on purpose just to tick off the people begging for the return of the start button and start menu. What a way to give your potential customers the finger.
    (1) Spending 10 minutes with it is not something to be proud about. I've seen tech critics use this line of argument as if it gives them some kind of all-knowingness over users that have used it more extensively.

    (2) If all it takes is 10 minutes for you to dislike it so much that you had to restore the win7 image, then you probably went into it thinking you won't like it and you fulfilled your prophecy b not liking it. It's called self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Reminds of my adult picky eating boyfriend. He's a lot better nowadays, but back when he would declare he wouldn't like a certain food even though he's never tried it. When it's right in front of him, he would make a face, take a grain size piece, put it in his mouth slowly with a disgust on his face, and then say "yup, I don't like it". And I'm talking about mainstream foods like Italian and Chinese, not monkey brain or some other weird stuff. If you didn't know he was trying a new type of pizza at an expensive restaurant, just by looking at his face while he put that grain size piece in his mouth you'd think someone is forcing him to eat dog poop.

    Just sayin'. Self-fulfilling prophecy is nothing to be proud about. Right off the bat, you told us absolutely nothing about windows 8.1 other than the fact that you thought you wouldn't like it, you didn't give it a chance, and you fulfilled your own prophecy about your dislike of windows 8.1.

    (3) If you can't live without the start menu, then stick with windows 7. Why are you even on this forum? This isn't the Dictatorship of Microsoftland. You have a choice. You don't like the lack of the start menu. You don't like the start screen. Stick with 7. You're not missing much.


    I'm not sure how I came across as a know-it-all.....

    Some of your other points are valid. Maybe I should invest more time into it. But to be honest I'm not using Win8 and have no plans to do so. I skipped it early on when I had problems finding drivers, and there were application compatibility issues with no solutions. Granted, I haven't tried Win8 again to see if those problems were corrected, and maybe I should. But Win7 is working fine and I really have no legitimate reason to upgrade.

    Another issue I have is that Win8 is not like former operating systems in that customization is limited without the use of 3rd party applications. Its ridiculous, but it is what it is. Win8.1 is the same way, which makes it totally out of the question for me. It started the moment I rebooted the first time after install when I was forced to use an email address to get logged in. Why is there no choice to go straight to a desktop (or those dreaded tiles)? I'll try it again to see if there is a work around, but I'm not holding out any hope.

    The start button and menu is merely an example I used; I could easily learn to do without it if I wanted to. I use it as an example because there was a ton of press related to Microsoft "giving in" and restoring the start button and functionality that customers were asking for. Rather than restore the functionality to what users were accustomed to all they did was provide a cosmetic button that did nothing more than take the user back to the tiles. That is NOT how you restore functionality and is the sole reason why I said it seemed as though Microsoft is flipping the middle finger at their customers. Its their way of telling everyone "screw you, we're going to do this our way".
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  8. #18



    I'm not sure how I came across as a know-it-all.....
    Try to think of it like this. Suppose I'm a food critic and I walk into an Italian restaurant to try their new pizza. I order a pizza while saying "I probably won't like this". Then when it comes out, I take a folk, break off a piece that is the size of a pea, make a face, and declare "yup, this is crap, I'm out of here" and gives it a 1 star on my blog.

    Suppose a new movie just came out called World War Z, and I'm a movie critic. 5 months before the movie came out, I write on my blog that the movie probably will suck and that it should really be called World War Zzzzzz. So, on opening night I go the movie, watch the first 5 minutes of it, get up and go home. On my blog, I write "yup, could only tolerate World War Zzzzzz for 5 minutes and had to get up and leave. Movie sucked exactly as I predicted.

    Or suppose I'm a hotel critic. There's this new hotel that they've been building. Months before its grand opening, I write on my portion of the paper that from the look of it the services at the hotel will probably suck. Opening day I come to the hotel and got a room. Spend about 10 minutes in the room looking around and then leave. On the hotel review section of the newspaper, I write "yup, couldn't tolerate the place more than 10 minutes. It sucks exactly as I predicted."

    I've actually seen tech reviewers of devices that have spent less than 5 minutes with the device they were going to review and then write a review article. One time, this reviewer spent 3 paragraphs ranting on how there is no charging port on the tablet portion of a hybrid device. He also ranted how there's no sdcard slot and a bunch of other things that makes it obvious he did not spend more than 5 minutes with it. And at the end, he dared to write he predicted this device would suck and sure enough it did suck when he tried it.

    Well, guess what, I've written several apps and published them on the windows 8 store using nothing but the very device he wrote as completely useless.

    Your 10 minutes thing makes you sound exactly like these reviewers.

    Some of your other points are valid. Maybe I should invest more time into it. But to be honest I'm not using Win8 and have no plans to do so. I skipped it early on when I had problems finding drivers, and there were application compatibility issues with no solutions. Granted, I haven't tried Win8 again to see if those problems were corrected, and maybe I should. But Win7 is working fine and I really have no legitimate reason to upgrade.
    Then you should have stated so before. A simple "I only spent 10 minutes, so I don't know it that well. You should try it for yourself..." or something like that instead of making a broad declaration that is practically "I could only tolerate 10 minutes of this puppy before I poured gasoline on it and burned it alive HAHAHAHAHAHA..."

    I have not tried windows 8.1 yet. Intel hasn't released the appropriate drivers for my device. So, for all I know, 8.1 could really suck like a vacuum cleaner.

    Another issue I have is that Win8 is not like former operating systems in that customization is limited without the use of 3rd party applications. Its ridiculous, but it is what it is. Win8.1 is the same way, which makes it totally out of the question for me. It started the moment I rebooted the first time after install when I was forced to use an email address to get logged in. Why is there no choice to go straight to a desktop (or those dreaded tiles)? I'll try it again to see if there is a work around, but I'm not holding out any hope.
    Perfect demonstration of why 10 minutes is not nearly enough time to get acquainted with something new. Hint: LOCAL ACCOUNT.

    Take the hybrid device that I've been using as my only computing device, for example. Ever since the burglary happened several months ago when I lost my i7 desktop, I've been using my hybrid device as my only work device. I've written and published several apps, and plan to publish another app by tomorrow using only this device. Tech reviewers have been hammering this device saying it is completely useless and you can't do anything with it at all. Obviously, they're wrong from my perspective, since I've been using visual studio to write and publish apps and Mathcad and a few other engineering desktop programs for work.

    Just sayin'. I don't judge a book by its cover.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 142
    Win 7 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post

    I'm not sure how I came across as a know-it-all.....
    Try to think of it like this. Suppose I'm a food critic and I walk into an Italian restaurant to try their new pizza. I order a pizza while saying "I probably won't like this". Then when it comes out, I take a folk, break off a piece that is the size of a pea, make a face, and declare "yup, this is crap, I'm out of here" and gives it a 1 star on my blog.

    Suppose a new movie just came out called World War Z, and I'm a movie critic. 5 months before the movie came out, I write on my blog that the movie probably will suck and that it should really be called World War Zzzzzz. So, on opening night I go the movie, watch the first 5 minutes of it, get up and go home. On my blog, I write "yup, could only tolerate World War Zzzzzz for 5 minutes and had to get up and leave. Movie sucked exactly as I predicted.

    Or suppose I'm a hotel critic. There's this new hotel that they've been building. Months before its grand opening, I write on my portion of the paper that from the look of it the services at the hotel will probably suck. Opening day I come to the hotel and got a room. Spend about 10 minutes in the room looking around and then leave. On the hotel review section of the newspaper, I write "yup, couldn't tolerate the place more than 10 minutes. It sucks exactly as I predicted."

    I've actually seen tech reviewers of devices that have spent less than 5 minutes with the device they were going to review and then write a review article. One time, this reviewer spent 3 paragraphs ranting on how there is no charging port on the tablet portion of a hybrid device. He also ranted how there's no sdcard slot and a bunch of other things that makes it obvious he did not spend more than 5 minutes with it. And at the end, he dared to write he predicted this device would suck and sure enough it did suck when he tried it.

    Well, guess what, I've written several apps and published them on the windows 8 store using nothing but the very device he wrote as completely useless.

    Your 10 minutes thing makes you sound exactly like these reviewers.

    Some of your other points are valid. Maybe I should invest more time into it. But to be honest I'm not using Win8 and have no plans to do so. I skipped it early on when I had problems finding drivers, and there were application compatibility issues with no solutions. Granted, I haven't tried Win8 again to see if those problems were corrected, and maybe I should. But Win7 is working fine and I really have no legitimate reason to upgrade.
    Then you should have stated so before. A simple "I only spent 10 minutes, so I don't know it that well. You should try it for yourself..." or something like that instead of making a broad declaration that is practically "I could only tolerate 10 minutes of this puppy before I poured gasoline on it and burned it alive HAHAHAHAHAHA..."

    I have not tried windows 8.1 yet. Intel hasn't released the appropriate drivers for my device. So, for all I know, 8.1 could really suck like a vacuum cleaner.

    Another issue I have is that Win8 is not like former operating systems in that customization is limited without the use of 3rd party applications. Its ridiculous, but it is what it is. Win8.1 is the same way, which makes it totally out of the question for me. It started the moment I rebooted the first time after install when I was forced to use an email address to get logged in. Why is there no choice to go straight to a desktop (or those dreaded tiles)? I'll try it again to see if there is a work around, but I'm not holding out any hope.
    Perfect demonstration of why 10 minutes is not nearly enough time to get acquainted with something new. Hint: LOCAL ACCOUNT.

    Take the hybrid device that I've been using as my only computing device, for example. Ever since the burglary happened several months ago when I lost my i7 desktop, I've been using my hybrid device as my only work device. I've written and published several apps, and plan to publish another app by tomorrow using only this device. Tech reviewers have been hammering this device saying it is completely useless and you can't do anything with it at all. Obviously, they're wrong from my perspective, since I've been using visual studio to write and publish apps and Mathcad and a few other engineering desktop programs for work.

    Just sayin'. I don't judge a book by its cover.

    Maybe you should try the product yourself before you bash people for expressing their opinions. Also, I know what a local account is, I wasn't given that option during installation. That's why I said I was going to try it again to find a work around.

    By the way, pizza is awesome, but only as long as it doesn't have onions or anchovies on it.
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by acr731 View Post

    Maybe you should try the product yourself before you bash people for expressing their opinions. Also, I know what a local account is, I wasn't given that option during installation. That's why I said I was going to try it again to find a work around.

    By the way, pizza is awesome, but only as long as it doesn't have onions or anchovies on it.
    I'm sorry you feel this way. At no point did I say you were wrong. I haven't tried 8.1 yet, so I can't say if it's good or bad. For all I know, it could be just as crappy as you said.

    The point isn't whether 8.1 is good or crappy. The point is every time you start a review with something like "I spent 10 minutes with this puppy and I hated it so much I hacked it to death" you lose all credibility. And believe me, you're not the only one who does this. A lot of tech reviewers these days seem to think it's the cool thing to say something like that.

    I use an hp envy x2 for everything. A few months back, there was a review of this device that was posted. I kid you not, the reviewer started his article by saying he had a bad feeling about this device before he got it. Then in the article he said yup it was as slow and laggy as he predicted. He spent 3 paragraphs ranting about how the tablet portion does not have a charging port. This told me that he probably spent like 5 minutes with the device before writing the article, considering the fact that the device tablet portion DOES have a charging port. He also complained that it didn't have an sdcard slot even though the specs said it did. Again, I can assure you that this device does have an sdcard slot. He ended his article with a clever smirk saying something like the envy x2 does not inspire envy exactly like he predicted.

    There's a reason why people want to read reviews. They want to know something about the device to decide whether they should get it or not. Why give a convoluted and obviously biased review of something?

    If you think you hate something because of your bias, then either clearly state that or refrain from sharing your opinion. All bias opinions do is clog up the internets, which is made of a series of tubes.

    Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything for the life of me that you can get to know well enough in just 10 minutes. Even a simple calculator takes longer than that to get acquainted with.
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