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Xbox One Drops 24 hour check in and game sharing will work

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    I don't know if this has been asked, but will you be able to play 360 games on it? For example, if i buy call of duty ghosts for 360, before the release of xbox one, will i be able to carry on the multiplayer, when i purchase the xbox one?

    Thankyou!

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  2. #22


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    Excellent news of course, good for them.
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  3. #23


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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewHirst View Post
    I don't know if this has been asked, but will you be able to play 360 games on it? For example, if i buy call of duty ghosts for 360, before the release of xbox one, will i be able to carry on the multiplayer, when i purchase the xbox one?

    Thankyou!
    NO.

    No backward compatibility due to new format.

    XBOX ONE and PS4 are the same on this aspect.

    We'll definitely see it in the news if they change their minds... but the chances are pretty high that the no remains no.
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  4. #24


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    If anyone is to blame it is MS


    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    Apparently a world of people don't want to go backwards. Thanks again to a few whiners, we get to re-visit the past.
    MS obviously has the code to do both systems.
    They could implement both systems and yet they refuse to do it (just like W8).

    MS remind me of this guy:

    "Screw you guys I'm going home!"
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  5. #25


    I am a little surprised myself by the fact that everything right now seems to be an "all or nothing" approach. I would expect a combination of both would be possible and a nice middle ground to go from the past to the future.
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  6. #26


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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    MS obviously has the code to do both systems.
    They could implement both systems and yet they refuse to do it (just like W8).
    Given that the 360 is a PowerPC-based cell processor variant (just like the PS3), and the Xbox One is an x86-based 64bit AMD CPU/APU design (again, just like the PS4), backwards compatibility is more than just "code", it's completely emulating a RISC-based processor (an advanced one, at that) and it's video hardware on a CISC-based machine.

    Most decent, stable, and usable emulators stop at the PS2 and Gamecube/Wii generation of hardware, and for good reason - it takes an awful lot of x86 CPU horsepower to emulate RISC-based designs properly. I've seen some emulators out there that supposedly run some xbox 360 games on a PC, but generally require ridiculously high-spec hardware, especially the video chipset, to run at decent framerates. The Xbox One doesn't actually *have* a high-end video chipset, and the AMD CPU appears to be somewhere between a mobile chip and a mid-range desktop chip - I know the memory architecture and certain other things make things quite advanced, but I'm not sure emulating the RISC cell CPU design from the PS3 or 360 on either the PS4 or the Xbox One will even be realistic for most games from this generation on what these consoles will have inside.

    The last stumbling block is that both Sony and Microsoft are businesses - making backwards compatibility work is in essence a lot of man-hours and code work for an unknown outcome with regards to actual compatibility, and an unknown fiscal return as well - they (Sony/Microsoft) don't necessarily make money on the consoles, they make money on licensing the ability to make games. With this in mind, making it easier for consumers to *not* purchase new games isn't a wise business move. Also, if you may remember the compatibility of original Xbox games on the 360, the list wasn't exactly a large one and the compatibility shims sometimes took a long time after the 360 launched to even become available. I know there will be a vocal minority who will complain about this, but most people will simply keep their old consoles for their old games.
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  7. #27


    Way to go Sony! They made the first move and stood by the end user. Microsoft had no choice. This was a money and control grab by MS and most people are getting a bit tired of losing their money and control.

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  8. #28


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    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewHirst View Post
    I don't know if this has been asked, but will you be able to play 360 games on it? For example, if i buy call of duty ghosts for 360, before the release of xbox one, will i be able to carry on the multiplayer, when i purchase the xbox one?

    Thankyou!
    The One has an HDMI In port which you can plug your 360 into. The guys at Microsoft were a little sly in interviews with the question but gave a solid yes with a "wait 'til you see how it works" which optimistically, if you see what they're doing with TV, you can guess that you're going to be able to either split the screen or switch back and forth between your 360 and One. They're already doing the app snapping feature and if HDMI In is treated like the snapped apps or TV, the 360 view can be snapped as well. and the snapped app can go fullscreen as well.
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  9. #29


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    I'm happy to see Microsoft did the right thing. They didn't go backwards at all. No, you won't have "family sharing" or whatever you want to call it. However, you can download your games, or buy disks. It's all a matter of choice. Also, it allows people without access to internet connections to use the box. As a father of 2 military veterans, including a Marine that was in Iraq, the game boxes were great time fillers between missions, but they were not always hooked up to the internet. Glad to see Microsoft supporting this.

    As for "digital downloads", do yourself a favor and never use that term. It's like NTFS file system, it's redundant. ALL games are digital. I've never played an analog program on a computer, and I've never seen even analog music on a CD or DVD, and I never downloaded and installed analog software on my computer or console before. It's a marketing ploy, don't fall for it.
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  10. #30


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    I'd say the Xbox One is now a 360 with better hardware - the 360 already has digital downloads of games, and requires the disc to play for physical media games even if installed. It has no online features for games other than multiplayer, which is basically what the Xbox One will now have - it will lack the family sharing features, and likely fast switching of games. TV Integration and better apps is nice, but as a gaming console it's now just a 360 with better hardware. This is definitely a lateral step, and I hope they put the features back in the future for downloaded games because honestly, those *were* the cool things that set it apart from the PS4 in my mind.
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