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    The world is not flat: Apple unveils 'fresh, light' iOS 7


    Important to those who think Apple is a competitor

    what we saw today, especially iOS 7, showed that Apple is not one to go after the latest fashion, the latest thing, but creates for those who appreciate the experience that Apple provides. And those customers are the best customers for Apple. "Familiar, but fresh and modern


    The world is not flat: Apple unveils 'fresh, light' iOS 7 - Computerworld

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    Apple's Tim Cook tells Microsoft: Ours is bigger than yours.

    In his keynote address at WWDC, Tim Cook couldn't resist dissing Microsoft, at several points badmouthing the paltry growth of PCs and Windows 8, and contrasting them with Apple's much bigger growth numbers. Size certainly does matter...but are Cook's claims really accurate?
    Apple's Tim Cook tells Microsoft: Ours is bigger than yours. | Computerworld Blogs
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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Apple's Tim Cook tells Microsoft: Ours is bigger than yours.

    In his keynote address at WWDC, Tim Cook couldn't resist dissing Microsoft, at several points badmouthing the paltry growth of PCs and Windows 8, and contrasting them with Apple's much bigger growth numbers. Size certainly does matter...but are Cook's claims really accurate?
    Apple's Tim Cook tells Microsoft: Ours is bigger than yours. | Computerworld Blogs
    Perhaps Timmy is being a bit disingenuous...

    But the decline in PC sales wasn't limited to the Windows PC market: Sales of Apple's Macs in the U.S. also declined in the quarter, by 7.5 percent, according to IDC estimates. That's roughly half the Windows decline, but the first major decline in Mac sales for several years, suggesting a broader shift to tablets such as Apple's iPad and other mobile devices is under way. (Gartner earlier reported its estimates that Mac sales in the U.S. grew 7.4 percent, so all eyes are on Apple's Apri 23 earnings announcements for hard data.)
    IDC: PC sales drop precipitously, Mac sales also decline in major market shift | Computer Hardware - InfoWorld (April 10, 2013)

    BTW the same article also states....

    PC shipments fell across all regions worldwide, and the market is headed into a further contraction than previously expected, IDC said. The industry is at a crossroads where the future of PCs is being questioned as users move to alternative computing devices such as tablets and smartphones, said David Daoud, a research director at IDC.
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    It is a CERTAINTY that the introduction of Windows 8 helped further damage PC sales.
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    tim cook should just boldly state, "We'll bash on Windows 8 and even Windows Phone, but we'll gladly steal, copy, IBS, molest, and make horrendous the modern design language called metro."

    Wow. Just wow.


    To describe ios 7 is nothing more than simply stating, it is of offense to my eyes.

    But to extrapolate, ew. It's literally like if apple took two blobs of play dough, one being android 4, one being Windows Phone, and just mushed them together along with the old crap of ios and called it revolutionary. Genius! Strange translucent UI pieces with obvious iconography that can ONLY be from Windows Phone. This is not "fresh" nor "light," it is validation of the metro modern design form of the Microsoft Modernists. It is a sign that for one, apple is copying from a major competitor. Two, they are not original anymore AT ALL. Three, they can't design good software worth SHITE. To have a company that believes that they and they only build the best of what they build to just radically alter the software (as well as hardware) like in the face of growing and fierce competition can only mean what they have simply isn't the best.

    The texting app screenshot looks almost spot on to Windows Phone if the background color was set to white and corners were rounded.

    Newer iconography is EXACTLY what is seen only from Windows Phone.

    Older flattened iconography look more along the lines of Office 2013, even Windows 8 but with more weird color gradients on all of them. That safari icon looks like a damn thermostat.

    Multitasking "card feature" is EXACTLY like on Windows Phone 8, of which will be more improved in Windows Phone 8.1.

    The awkward looking glass? translucency reminds me of android 4, but again is more skeumorphic. It looks like something you would see in videos or photos that are blurred to mask a face or something otherwise obscene. Makes perfect sense.

    The home screen looks like it should be on a cheap colored plastic toy.

    Fonts that are used that are thin and light, my GOD that is from Windows Phone.


    Now let's start on mac os x 10.9 Mavericks (what the hell, it was all feline animal names now it's a popular surfing spot in California?), ummm, yeah. Windows 8 thievery I see first off with the Calendar app. Going from leather stitching to simple white background UI with colored appointments, sounds freaking familiar.

    "Oh, we're not going to combine a toaster and a refrigerator together like Windows 8, but we'll gladly take ios and morph it into mac os." Wow, another 10.x release, another dose of ios, the ONLY platform from apple that makes it even remotely relevant.

    And yet, ALL of those, from mac os to ios, are PURELY AESTHETIC. There isn't anything ground breaking in either ios or mac os, well ios has actual better multitasking/switching than ios 6, maybe a simpler way to get to simple settings. Other than that, it's just all a Windows Phone/android knockoff. If they did this three years ago, THEY would be the ones getting praise for doing something modern and progressing UI design, progressing ios in general. Instead, they are too late in a time where everything Microsoft is currently prevalent in tech media, where Microsoft design is currently at the forefront everywhere (you'll even seen google copying this later as even now). Something like DESIGN that is traditionally apple territory has been turned over to be grasped by Microsoft.

    apple is taking a HUGE risk here with ios. It has been found out internally that the design is polarizing. Another similarity between ios and everything modern Microsoft designed, it is polarizing. apple is currently advertising things of the iphone like "it's the most used device to listen to music," or "we take pride in what we do." They're trying to justify why they are the best, in the face of the consumer who is going to android or Windows Phone.

    Or maybe it should be taken as, "The best Windows Phone ever."
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    You are utterly hilarious.

    and make horrendous the modern design language called metro
    Metro is horrendous. Apple created something completely different, it has depth. Any suggestion they copied from metro is ludicrous. Sir Johnathan has done an amazing job.


    I don't have any Apple stuff, but I have to give credit where it is due. Their whole marketing/design is excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    tim cook should just boldly state, "We'll bash on Windows 8 and even Windows Phone, but we'll gladly steal, copy, IBS, molest, and make horrendous the modern design language called metro."

    Wow. Just wow.


    To describe ios 7 is nothing more than simply stating, it is of offense to my eyes.

    But to extrapolate, ew. It's literally like if apple took two blobs of play dough, one being android 4, one being Windows Phone, and just mushed them together along with the old crap of ios and called it revolutionary. Genius! Strange translucent UI pieces with obvious iconography that can ONLY be from Windows Phone. This is not "fresh" nor "light," it is validation of the metro modern design form of the Microsoft Modernists. It is a sign that for one, apple is copying from a major competitor. Two, they are not original anymore AT ALL. Three, they can't design good software worth SHITE. To have a company that believes that they and they only build the best of what they build to just radically alter the software (as well as hardware) like in the face of growing and fierce competition can only mean what they have simply isn't the best.

    The texting app screenshot looks almost spot on to Windows Phone if the background color was set to white and corners were rounded.

    Newer iconography is EXACTLY what is seen only from Windows Phone.

    Older flattened iconography look more along the lines of Office 2013, even Windows 8 but with more weird color gradients on all of them. That safari icon looks like a damn thermostat.

    Multitasking "card feature" is EXACTLY like on Windows Phone 8, of which will be more improved in Windows Phone 8.1.

    The awkward looking glass? translucency reminds me of android 4, but again is more skeumorphic. It looks like something you would see in videos or photos that are blurred to mask a face or something otherwise obscene. Makes perfect sense.

    The home screen looks like it should be on a cheap colored plastic toy.

    Fonts that are used that are thin and light, my GOD that is from Windows Phone.


    Now let's start on mac os x 10.9 Mavericks (what the hell, it was all feline animal names now it's a popular surfing spot in California?), ummm, yeah. Windows 8 thievery I see first off with the Calendar app. Going from leather stitching to simple white background UI with colored appointments, sounds freaking familiar.

    "Oh, we're not going to combine a toaster and a refrigerator together like Windows 8, but we'll gladly take ios and morph it into mac os." Wow, another 10.x release, another dose of ios, the ONLY platform from apple that makes it even remotely relevant.

    And yet, ALL of those, from mac os to ios, are PURELY AESTHETIC. There isn't anything ground breaking in either ios or mac os, well ios has actual better multitasking/switching than ios 6, maybe a simpler way to get to simple settings. Other than that, it's just all a Windows Phone/android knockoff. If they did this three years ago, THEY would be the ones getting praise for doing something modern and progressing UI design, progressing ios in general. Instead, they are too late in a time where everything Microsoft is currently prevalent in tech media, where Microsoft design is currently at the forefront everywhere (you'll even seen google copying this later as even now). Something like DESIGN that is traditionally apple territory has been turned over to be grasped by Microsoft.

    apple is taking a HUGE risk here with ios. It has been found out internally that the design is polarizing. Another similarity between ios and everything modern Microsoft designed, it is polarizing. apple is currently advertising things of the iphone like "it's the most used device to listen to music," or "we take pride in what we do." They're trying to justify why they are the best, in the face of the consumer who is going to android or Windows Phone.

    Or maybe it should be taken as, "The best Windows Phone ever."
    U mad bro?

    Everyone made MP3's and did a bad job of it. Apple made one and changed the world of listening to music. They were not first to the game, they took what was there, refined it, and signed it. They are doing the same thing now. You seem to have created some expectations, then complain about how horrible of a job they did when they didn't meet your requirements. I see what you did there.

    Do you expect Apple to come up with everything? The world is filled with designers that come up with great ideas. Apple takes as well as creates. An idea that Microsoft or Google comes up with might be a great fit for iOS. Apple will take those ideas and incorporate them into iOS. I expect them to do that. I'm glad they do that. There are many Windows and Android innovations that needed to make their way to iOS. It's strange you find a problem with that. Stinks of fanboyism and you're mad Apple now has those features too. Kinda takes away your guns when fruit phones can do what the other guys can do too. I guess that what you can focus on now to hate on the fruit guys right?

    The question I have is, who did it better?

    We'll find that out when the iOS 7 install numbers come out when it is released. I should have my hands on iOS 7 today. I'll be sure to let you know how horrible it is.
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    I'm looking forward to many of the new changes in iOS 7. Specifically the Control Center and updated Calendar view.

    While I use a Windows PC as my primary computer, I am still invested in the Apple ecosystem with iCloud and iTunes Match.

    Until Microsoft can offer the same seamless ecosystem, I will continue to use a PC/iPhone/iPad "tool belt".
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    LOL! Spy vs Spy.

    We may as well argue Monet vs Picasso. > "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder".

    My 2 cents worth so far as aesthetics:

    First off, I'm sick of looking at icons. I've been looking at them for, oh, what? 18 or so years now? What a relief to see Metro design. After seeing the site below, although a step in the right direction with uniform radius-cornered squares, it's still an icon.

    Overall the phone looks sterile to me. Like it belongs in an OR.

    Not talking functionally, but when it comes to looks, one may as well buy a Droid. It's far cheaper.

    Apple - iOS 7

    Nice interactive site BTW. I have to hand it to Apple for advertising. They do a good job at it. I'd like to see what they spend on it vs MS.

    This "beholder" likes this:

    Nokia Lumia 928 - Windows Phone with PureView Camera - Nokia - USA

    Check out the videos and specs. I think Nokia did a first-class act here with this phone.
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    Or maybe one of these:



    Then there's FF phone thing and Samsung Tizen coming - it's all opening up.
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