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Warning! Users will have to reinstall all apps...

  1. #41


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
    I saw, and posted the article as a warning that if you install the preview, you will have to reinstall apps. To me, and many, it may have seemed obvious to play with the preview in a VM, but there are always those who aren't as technical reading. As has been stated, if you install the preview, you will have to reinstall apps when the final comes out. If you use a VM to play with it, you will just do an update. I think the idea was that everyone be made aware, then it seems a small thing, no?


    A Guy
    Hi there
    I think you can avoid the whole update / re-install apps issue with the final if you are using the preview in a NON VM.

    1) Backup / image your current OS + apps (this should be on its own partition anyway - separate from your data -- and don't forget the small system partition if it exists as well). You should always backup ypur OS regularly anyway so if you don't this is a good time to start.

    2) Install and test the preview.

    3) When Final comes out - restore your OLD image from your backup -- again don't forget the small system partition which should be the "Active" one.

    4) Now simply Update to the final 8.1.

    Use a program like Free Macrium for the backup - or a more robust commercial program like Acronis.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #42


    South Coast NSW, Australia
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    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    That's my plan, Jimbo.

    From an earlier post of mine in another thread....

    ""This is my plan for the testing of Windows 8.1:

    Step 1. Take a system-image of my current Windows 8 Pro setup. I use EaseUS ToDo Backup Workstation (the full version).

    Step 2. Install preview over Windows 8, keeping programs and apps (apparently this is possible).

    Step 3. Test/customise Windows 8.1, test programs and apps. No major issues anticipated.

    Step 4. Upon release of the final code, wipe that setup altogether.

    Step 5. Restore the Windows 8 image I created earlier.

    Step 6. If I decide it's worthwhile. install 8.1 as an upgrade over the original Windows 8, not the preview. This should keep all programs and apps.

    So if you want to test the preview, but don't want to have to re-install everything, this is probably the way to go.""

    I do have the option to use Virtual-Box if desired, or if my plan doesn't work.

    Wenda.
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  3. #43


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    We aren't yet sure if 8.1 preview will install over 8 as an upgrade - however if it does then your plan is even better. The main point though is that users should TAKE A BACKUP before doing any of these things.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. #44


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    I run W8 in VMware Player. All I need to do is to copy the VMware folder - that's the image.
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  5. #45


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I run W8 in VMware Player. All I need to do is to copy the VMware folder - that's the image.
    Hi there.

    doesn't matter what you are using -- the point is to TAKE A DECENT BACKUP - if it's simply copying the VM's folders or even "cloning" the virtual machine (VMware workstation feature) then fine. However a lot of people don't use (or even know) what a VM is so I think your post actually just obfuscates the basic issue that PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE BACKUPS.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #46



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    NJ
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    4 Windows 7 Pro Sp1- 4 Win 8 Pro, 1- xp pro sp3


    I just hope when final comes out the only thing we might have to do is reinstall metro apps and not programs
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  7. #47


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Who are you to tell me that I am 'obfuscating the basic issue'. I have seen many people run W8 in VM and this is the most expedient way to backup the system.

    I don't think we need you to tell us which posts are useful and which ones are not.

    Reference:

    Hi there.

    doesn't matter what you are using -- the point is to TAKE A DECENT BACKUP - if it's simply copying the VM's folders or even "cloning" the virtual machine (VMware workstation feature) then fine. However a lot of people don't use (or even know) what a VM is so I think your post actually just obfuscates the basic issue that PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE BACKUPS.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #48


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
    warning   Warning
    Users will have to reinstall all apps if they opt for Windows 8.1 beta




    Put another way, Windows RT users will be forced to reinstall all of the “Metro” apps (now known as modern apps) they’ve added to the OS, once the final RTM version is released.

    And Windows 8 users will be forced to reinstall all of the modern-stype apps and all of the desktop apps they’ve added—a real pain for anyone with a well-populated system, according to ZDNet, which first reported the story.
    Source

    A Guy
    Does this mean, they have to Re-Purchase any Paid Apps? I hope not, even with the Apple iStore there are a few apps that have In-App "Pro" Purchases, where the app will "Go Pro" of you buy the "add free" version. When you reinstall these and hit "Restore in app purchases" they usually light right up, but there have been a few that forced you to re-purchase the IAP.

    This is supposed to mean, it has to go through your card again, but it is not supposed ot be re-charged. But this doesn't happen, you get charged again.

    However if you had bought the Pro version the first time, the app will simply re-install.

    This is what Apple has got going for it that is miles above the lack of "free" versions of a lot of the Metro Apps - There are virtually NO Free versions of the apps you want to try out, and many of them have no "trial" available. Just about every app in the Apple Store has both free and paid versions.

    I've been through the "new apps" several times in the last month, and there is still nothing useful in the store - I think VLC Remote now has a Windows 8 version. EDIT - VLC Remote has a "Windows Phone" version, but it is NOT "Metro"
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  9. #49


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    What's wrong with installing 8.1 preview to a different partition?
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  10. #50


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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Can anybody that's running a leaked build answer a question for me? Are they a full stand alone version that can be clean installed or an update that has to be applied to an all ready installed Windows 8? I assume its the latter but would like to confirm it.
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