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Ed Bott: 8 Changes I'd like to see in Windows 8

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Who really needs or uses WMC anymore
    The author just said he does.

    even the Start button ...you don't really miss or need it anyway
    Plenty of people do
    Hi there
    You'll always find SOME people who want certain features -- however I'd still maintain that WMC isn't a big issue for perhaps the MAJORITY of W8 users -- I'd bet even on this Forum a huge majority of users now who have either have installed or ever use hardware TV cards / USB TV receivers ever watch TV using these via WMC -- especially where fast broadband is available.

    The start button was demanded by a load of people coming from W7 - I know quite a few people who bought new computers with W8 pre-installed and don't have any issue with navigating W8 - and I also know some who have never used W7 or earlier windows don't actually like those versions as W8 interface is similar to their phones.

    If you need or want WMC you can get it for the non Enterprise versions -- but Ms is correct IMO for not over bloating the OS with features that probably not a large percentage of users would require.

    Cheers
    jimbo

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    If MS are going to get inspiration from Ubuntu Unity - they might as well use all of it. Mark has already sorted it out with Unity. No sense in only borrowing half of his work.

    The dash (start screen) , panel (fairy wand ), etc all works fine in Unity. MS implementation is half finished.

    I see MS are now trying some more of the stuff already found in Unity. ( It also already has some of the things Ed Bott is suggesting.)

    I understand what Steve Jobs was talking about.
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    You'll always find SOME people who want certain features -- however I'd still maintain that WMC isn't a big issue for perhaps the MAJORITY of Windows 8 users
    Yes, that is what I said in my first post. But if MS are going to make WMC available at all - it is a bit daft to restrict it Pro only. As Rick said - either make it available to all - or they could just dump it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    You'll always find SOME people who want certain features -- however I'd still maintain that WMC isn't a big issue for perhaps the MAJORITY of Windows 8 users
    Yes, that is what I said in my first post. But if MS are going to make WMC available at all - it is a bit daft to restrict it Pro only. As Rick said - they could just dump it.
    Hi there

    are my eyes going bonkers or do I really need Glasses -- the Article says 8 changes I'd like to see in W8.1 but probably won't -- I can only read ONE in the article -- and then loads of comments etc. Where are the next 7 -- it's not obvious where to scroll next.

    As for having the charms bar visible at all times -- NO THANKS -- I don't need a One - Two inch thick vertical bar running down the right hand side of my screen when I'm editing an EXCEL spread sheet -- I'd rather use the FULL WIDTH of the monitor --- and what about playing a DVD -- do you really want the charms bar visible at the same time.

    If the rest of his features are of similar mould --thank goodness he wasn't on the design team.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    LOL, maybe you didn't look properly

    Yes, that is what I said in my first post.
    #3

    I am not sure that {WMC} is something which is stopping people buying 8. But Rick has a good point.

    It is one thing to make it a $10 add on. The strange part is - you can only add it onto 8 Pro.


    One of the few times I agree with Ed Bott.

    It is a very good idea to be able to see the Panel (charms bar) and the Launcher ( taskbar ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    are my eyes going bonkers or do I really need Glasses -- the Article says 8 changes I'd like to see in W8.1 but probably won't -- I can only read ONE in the article -- and then loads of comments etc. Where are the next 7 -- it's not obvious where to scroll next.
    It's a slideshow thing, with Next and Previous buttons near the top above the image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    It's called a freaking Start Screen.
    ...so I only see it when Windows Starts or to Start an app or software.

    And when I do Start an app/software, I click the Windows key and start typing the name straight away, so don't see any tiles or whatever on the Start screen. (Well strictly speaking I probably do see them for about 200ms but it's not long enough to register.)

    Also I often Hibernate or Sleep my PC rather than starting from scratch, (which returns to whatever software I was using, again without seeing the Start screen) so I don't always start Windows itself.

    Most of the time I have some software or other open on the PC.

    So I rarely see anything on the Start screen, not because I'm trying to avoid it; I'm just busy doing other stuff, and most of the time, all the things I need to Start are already Started so I don't look at the Start screen.

    It's not a good place to put notifications.
    So then a different UI is needed for notifications now?

    Start is a perfect place for notifications because every live tiles is a notification. You will have to look at some kind of notification center for more than 200ms, same with the Start Screen. If you have a conscious effort to look at and reveal a notification center, you can just as well hit your Start key.
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