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Windows 8 expected to be third most use OS this month

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    What's stunning is that despite what common business sense, history, and logic would tell you MS stubbornly refuses to "give the people what they want".

    Obviously MS has NOT actually internalized the business case of "New Coke".

    I have heard them sneer at the analogy but it still applies to even MS product. If you refuse to give the customer what they want, they will bury you.

    I think the New Coke story is applicable too because you had a iconic traditional soft drink that everyone loved and had many loyal fans...then because of some misguided focus group study by some equally misguided consulting agency the CCC devised an answer to a question absolutely NO customer ever asked....think about it. The difference is that the Coca Cola Company reacted quickly to the customer uproar and moved swiftly to offer what the customer wanted once again. So while there was some grumbling in the end all was forgiven.

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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Windows 8 To Surpass Windows Visa Market Share In June

    The latest market share data from Net Applications shows that May 2013 was a decent one for Windows 8, which gained 0.43 percentage points (from 3.84 percent to 4.27 percent). Windows Vista meanwhile lost another 0.24 percentage points (from 4.75 percent to 4.51 percent), after finally falling below the 5 percent mark in March.

    If Windows Vista merely held steady in June, Windows 8′s growth would allow it to pass its now ancient predecessor. However, assuming that Windows 8 grows as it did in the past month, and Vista declines in the same fashion as well, and we should see the month end with 8 controlling 4.7 percent of the market, and Vista 4.27 percent.

    Put another way, around the middle of June, Windows 8 will surpass Windows Vista as the third most popular operating system variant in the world. Its taken longer than expected, given soft sales of Windows 8 and a slowing PC market, but now around 7 months into its life, the new version of Windows is about to claim its first victim.
    I don't know WHERE they are getting these figures - From STEAM? I don't see that as a viable way to see how many people are using it. The best way would be to make a POLL and run it on MS websites day and night. Simply ASK the public, what OS they are using.

    But to compare Windows 8 to VISTA? Why are they not comparing it to Windows 7? Because, in the Real World - I have not SEEN a Vista installation in over 2 years - Except for my Emachines eTower that was given to me - And the reason WHY it was given to me? Nobody WANTED it, despite it being installed on a fast system- A Fast system that was NOT Fast until I upgraded it to Windows 7.

    Seems like these Microsoft Statistics guys are trying to jump Hurdles, HUGE Hurdles, you CANNOT compare Windows 8 adoption rates to VISTA without Windows 7 being in that equation!
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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    What's stunning is that despite what common business sense, history, and logic would tell you MS stubbornly refuses to "give the people what they want".

    Obviously MS has NOT actually internalized the business case of "New Coke".

    I have heard them sneer at the analogy but it still applies to even MS product. If you refuse to give the customer what they want, they will bury you.

    I think the New Coke story is applicable too because you had a iconic traditional soft drink that everyone loved and had many loyal fans...then because of some misguided focus group study by some equally misguided consulting agency the CCC devised an answer to a question absolutely NO customer ever asked....think about it. The difference is that the Coca Cola Company reacted quickly to the customer uproar and moved swiftly to offer what the customer wanted once again. So while there was some grumbling in the end all was forgiven.

    Hahaha! Don't tell Coke Robot about New Coke hahaha! He'll pour himself down your throat! hehe.

    But, really, how much of a PUBLIC outrage ensued with "New Coke" - Well, it was SO significant that they HAD to put out Coke Classic almost instantly or face Death as a Business and sell out to Pepsi in short order!

    I guess this explains the 100% resistance I have witnessed against Windows 8 - People perceive it as New Coke. I feel it is up to ME, to you guys, to all of us in here, to quell that comparison at it's source, because the more people use that New Coke analogy, the less people will actually go out and Buy Windows 8.

    I'll have to poll my clients, see if they feel that way. That's a hard image to fight, New Coke had so big of an impact that it is now a Historical reference on to how to lose money.
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    well i think that most users do not want to spent all the money on Vista, then Win 7, then Win 8.....for many people this costs to much.

    then you have Office 2007, 2010 and now 2013, same thing.....more money.

    And when one has 3 or more pc' s at home, it is really getting expensive.

    It is going to fast financially.

    As for the start button.....well .....

    Jeff
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  5. #15


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    We shall see if MS have done enough with the new os (8.1) to have any effect on pc sales. Perhaps the new os will be the less off putting to potential buyers.

    It might seem strange MS didn't offer options to the users, as in the dos to gui transition. Users found gui to be preferable and chose it.

    MS fear users users will not prefer the metro madness, and will not choose it.

    Therefore, MS do not offer a choice.They tried force with 8. It failed, now they are trying stealth with 8.1.


    Tablet sales are a different matter. I wouldn't be surprised if they could get a much better position there - distant 3rd.
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    Windows 8, 2012, 7, 2008R2, 2008, 2003, XP,SUSE


    So someone is getting excited about Windows 8 taking just over 4% of the market 8 months after it was released and it just might overtake Vista which was killed years ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbofish View Post
    So someone is getting excited about Windows 8 taking just over 4% of the market 8 months after it was released and it just might overtake Vista which was killed years ago?

    Seems Microsoft is - But Not US.

    Look, M$ is trying to say that VISTA is still out there being used! It's NOT, I GUARANTEED you! the "3rd Used OS" my blue Butt - They are using the Figures they INFLATED in 2007 to "Prove" that - I think it was also "100 Million" people had BOUGHT Vista!

    If this were true back then, then every 4th Computer IN THE WORLD would have Vista on it! But, as we know this is far from the case.

    Even in 2007, with Vista in Full Swing - It was Rare to find Vista installed. And when I was found, I was the one being asked if I would KINDLY delete the f00k out of it and install XP or in some cases, 2000!

    There are two OS's which I have never ever been asked to install to a client's PC or Laptop - Windows Millennium, and Vista.

    Windows 8 is rapidly becoming the THIRD never-asked-for-OS. This is really making me sad, too, because Windows 8 is in NO WAY the same class of very bad ideas and blatant mistakes that those two OS's were.
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  8. #18


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    They tried force with 8. It failed, now they are trying stealth with 8.1.

    So the fact that MS announced months before releasing W8 that they were going to have more frequent updates to the OS, starting with the first this year is just MS trying to 'stealth'?

    4% in half a year is not great but still better than OSX's 7% in 12 years, soon to be surpassed by W8.
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    They tried force with 8. It failed, now they are trying stealth with 8.1.

    So the fact that MS announced months before releasing W8 that they were going to have more frequent updates to the OS, starting with the first this year is just MS trying to 'stealth'?

    4% in half a year is not great but still better than OSX's 7% in 12 years, soon to be surpassed by W8.
    Yes, but which user base is happier and will buy again for sure?
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