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Hey, Microsoft: It's the apps, stupid

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    Hey, Microsoft: It's the apps, stupid


    Microsoft today revealed some of the changes in Windows 8 due to reach customers in a month, but didn't address what analysts called the biggest barrier to the OS's success. That would be Windows 8 apps, dubbed "Modern" apps, or if one sticks to Microsoft's original but now discarded moniker, "Metro" apps.
    "The bottom line is that there is not a Modern app that does anything for me," said Michael Cherry of Directions on Microsoft, a Kirkland, Wash. research firm that focuses only on Microsoft. "And the real danger [with the changes in Windows 8.1] is that developers start to think, 'I might as well stay with an old-style, Win32 app.'"

    Microsoft's original premise was based on requiring customers to use the Start screen, or at least move through it, before reaching the "classic" desktop that closely resembles Windows 7. With boot-to-desktop and the new App view, however, exposure to the Start screen and apps has been diminished.
    Developers may use the boot-to-desktop option as an excuse not to write top-notch apps for the Modern user interface (UI), Cherry said -- a disastrous turn for Microsoft.
    Hey, Microsoft: It's the apps, stupid - Computerworld

    Looks like Classic Shell and other shells put a kink in M$ plans to shove Metro down our throats.

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    I am really curious what MS is going to do if a decent amount of Windows 8 users do not update to 8.1. Will all future Windows 8 updates, hot fixes, and service packs be both 8.0 and 8.1 compliant?
    I see nothing in this update which would prompt me to actually create a MS account and fiddle around with the app store to download and hope nothing I have set up becomes broken. My system is running great with 8.0 and Start8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoop101 View Post
    I am really curious what MS is going to do if a decent amount of Windows 8 users do not update to 8.1. Will all future Windows 8 updates, hot fixes, and service packs be both 8.0 and 8.1 compliant?
    I see nothing in this update which would prompt me to actually create a MS account and fiddle around with the app store to download and hope nothing I have set up becomes broken. My system is running great with 8.0 and Start8.
    They will have to support both if not the backlash could be even louder who would buy Windows 8 with support being dropped only a year or so later. I see Windows 8 being dropped with every thing going to 8.1 kinda like Windows 7 support, no support unless you have service pack 1 installed.
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    They are exactly right.

    Microsoft's original premise was based on requiring customers to use the Start screen, or at least move through it, before reaching the "classic" desktop
    That is why they didn't allow boot to desktop and why they removed start menu.

    With boot-to-desktop and the new App view, however, exposure to the Start screen and apps has been diminished.
    It is not as bad for MS as it sounds. They have merely delayed exposure to the start screen until the user hits the start button.

    MS realised many advanced/power users would see that as an ambush or a massive FU. Therefore they will let them change the default to all apps. view . No skin off MS nose. Those users will almost certainly have used a start menu replacement anyhow. If some of them decide to use all apps instead - that is a win for MS. They have thought this through.
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