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Continuing the Windows 8 vision with Windows 8.1

  1. #31


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
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    I don't like liver. I will never like liver. You telling me how much you like liver isn't going to make me ever like liver.
    Me telling you I don't like liver isn't going to suddenly make someone else not like liver.

    Some people just don't get that.

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  2. #32


    Posts : 902
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    I don't like liver either.
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  3. #33


    Posts : 15
    Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by snoop101 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MaloCS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post

    The squeaky wheel gets the grease, at least that's what some of us hope will happen. It's just that some are more vocal about it than others. A lot of them are likely using Windows 7 but I personally would rather see the Windows 8 complaints here than on the Windows 7 forum. This isn't a Windows 8 Likes Only forum by the way. < Not meant to be sarcastic, just saying.
    And it's not just a Windows 8 hate forum either. There's a fine line between criticism and hate and a sizable selection of people on this board are trending towards hate. Additionally, all of the "8 Hate" on this board is drowning out the people that actually have something constructive to contribute. I personally don't know why the "8 Hate" is given so much prominence here and elsewhere, it's like the objective is to cut Microsoft down at the knees for even thinking up Metro. People genuinely seem personally offended that Metro even exists.

    My point is this: Does Microsoft and Windows 8 mean so much in the grand scheme of things that they're worth the effort that the haters on this board give them? Don't you think that the haters would get bored and find something constructive to do? Is the Metro interface so politically and socially deviant that it needs a movement to combat it's gross misconduct perpetrated on humanity?

    All I know is that for something as trivial as a computer operating system I wouldn't waste my valuable time protesting it. I have more important things to do in my life.

    PS - I think all of the Metro hate is really just a scared reaction to change and where personal computers are heading. I really don't think it's about Metro at all.
    I am a developer and DBA. I am forced to use MS software because that is what my clients use. I personally am affected by the OS interface on a daily basis. So, accordingly, I want my opinion known.
    I do not like the direction MS is taking with Windows 8 and I would like to see it changed. That is one of the primary reasons I read/post on this forum. My job and sole source of income is directly affected by the whims of MS. Just because these things have so little bearing on yourself doesn't mean it is that way for everyone.
    I'm a web developer and designer so my ability to earn a living is affected in some way shape or form by Microsoft's new Metro paradigm. Listen, I was the type of guy that laughed at the drones paying $100 a month for cell phones when they could be paying $10 a month like I was when I used Tracphone. However, I quickly learned that my idea of how things should work was old fashioned when I saw my then 2 year old son pick up a friend's iPhone and start using it without instruction. From that point on I realized that the advancement of technology would not be hampered by this old guy's antiquated ideologies and if I wanted to stay relevant in my chosen career I would need to learn this new paradigm and become efficient at it.

    Just like my smart phone lesson I was initially skeptical about this mobile, Metro UI being implemented on desktop PCs. That is until I took my family into the local Microsoft store and my now 5 year old son started using Windows 8 like he had been on it for years. Again, just like with the iPhone, I learned a valuable lesson that my dinosaur ass was going to be left behind if I didn't accept the fact that technology and philosophies were changing. I was on the fast track of becoming that old guy that screams at the neighborhood kids to get off his lawn.

    In a effort to combat my ancient ideologies I decided to give Windows 8 an honest try. I've been using Windows 8 for 5 months and I have to admit, I really enjoy using it. Additionally, I have noticed no loss of productivity and my workflow has not been affected one iota.
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  4. #34


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post
    That's always the same story... many people forget what happened when XP arrived.
    Users and companies went to XP only after the release of SP3
    Wrong SP.
    Most companies were using XP long before 2008.
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  5. #35


    Let me step into my "wayback machine" and recall a time not too many years ago when these monstrosities called "mainframes" were the be-all and end-all for computing.

    Along comes this upstart concept of client/server computing. "Oh, ha ha, it'll never replace the mainframe" was the mantra of the skeptics. I decided to be flexible in what I wanted to do going forward - that proved to be a good choice. Not long after that I started working with Unix and then Windows NT, and basically never looked back.

    Fast-forward to 2013: client/server computing is everywhere, and mainframes, while they still exist, no longer rule the computing world. Tablets and smart phones are becoming the platform of choice for anytime/anywhere computing.

    Yeah, you can choose to ignore it - for a while. People clung bitterly to their Windows 2000 or Windows 9x/Me systems when XP came along, decrying the "ugly" interface and color schemes. The world moved on.

    I'm no big fan of Windows 8 although I suppose if I were to plunge headlong into it that using it would be second nature in a short time. For now I find Windows 7 more to my liking but I also don't think that there's anything I could *not* do as well in Windows 8 if necessary. The propect of reinstalling a bunch of software I use is not appealing to me, and I always make it a rule to begin with a clean install of a major new OS. There's nothing "broken" about Windows 7 so I don't need to "fix" it.

    It sure would be nnice though if some folks would realize that the choice of one OS over another is not "right" or "wrong." I'll take my hamburger for now, thank you, but if you'd rather have a hot dog, then go ahead and enjoy it!
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  6. #36


    Quote Originally Posted by TerryE View Post
    It sure would be nice though if some folks would realize that the choice of one OS over another is not "right" or "wrong." I'll take my hamburger for now, thank you, but if you'd rather have a hot dog, then go ahead and enjoy it!
    It's good to see you back posting from time to time again, Terry. I always enjoy reading your professional viewpoint as I do other Pros here. You seem to be so level-headed about the matter.

    But..... Comparing Windows 8 with a hot dog? Lol! I come from the land of hot dogs! Although surely not invented here and probably boasting, Chicago claims to be the hot dog capital. Why? Well, there's a lot of hot dogs around here!

    May I offer you a kosher Chicago hot dog with everything on it for lunch?
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  7. #37


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MaloCS View Post
    Good grief!

    An earlier member said that the customers Microsoft lost will never come back. If that's the case then I wonder why all you haters are still here. It's obvious that Microsoft lost your business so I would assume you would find a forum more suitable for your needs.

    I like Microsoft. I like Windows 8. That's why I'm still here.

    Rock on!
    The squeaky wheel gets the grease, at least that's what some of us hope will happen. It's just that some are more vocal about it than others. A lot of them are likely using Windows 7 but I personally would rather see the Windows 8 complaints here than on the Windows 7 forum. This isn't a Windows 8 Likes Only forum by the way. < Not meant to be sarcastic, just saying.
    Which is the problem, some are OVERLY vocal about their complaints to the point of arguing about it with people. Others are more content to voice their complaints/concerns about Windows 8, and move on with their lives, not linger around trolling.
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  8. #38


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Which is the problem, some are OVERLY vocal about their complaints to the point of arguing about it with people. Others are more content to voice their complaints/concerns about Windows 8, and move on with their lives, not linger around trolling.
    To be fair, it is no different than heralding metro at every single opportunity. Taking a step back, one sees two camps, equally vocal in support of their views. You cannot say one is 'bad', without saying the same thing about the other side. And by now, we all know which side most members 'belong' to.( I myself belonging to the "pro win8 but anti-metro" camp.

    The pro metro crowd, continually herald metro as the best thing since sliced bread. All well and fine... but please try to remember that not everyone shares your opinion.(yes, that's right, they're all just opinions) And the same goes for the anti metro crowd... color us less than impressed.

    The debate is sure to continue, unless of course management decides that only one sides opinions will be tolerated.
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  9. #39


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    It is rather disappointing that they paid so little heed to what their actual customers had to say. I personally will never use metro, will never let any of the pc's I service use metro, will continue to dissuade anyone and everyone I know from using metro.

    I'm willing to be that I am not alone.
    I understand and respect your feelings about using Metro foryourself. But I don't understand why you would want to dissuade anyone else from using it.
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  10. #40


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    Simply because in my circle, people would ask me. Few if any in my circle would be tablet users, so we are talking desktop users... and I could not, in good conscience recommend something that I find inferior. In each case, I would recommend win8 in conjunction with 'classic shell'.
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