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Plummeting PC sales expose fiction of Windows 8 numbers

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    Plummeting PC sales expose fiction of Windows 8 numbers


    When major PC manufacturers report that first-quarter sales are down or flatlined, one has to wonder: Where are all the supposed Windows 8 licenses going?

    Hewlett-Packard posted its quarterly results late last week, and the results paint yet another horrendous picture for the future of Windows. Lenovo posted first-quarter results last week as well, and while the picture from China isn't as dire, it's far from comforting. Windows 8 is in a nosedive, no matter how you look at it, in spite of Microsoft's remonstrations to the contrary.
    Read more at: Plummeting PC sales expose fiction of Windows 8 numbers | Microsoft windows - InfoWorld
    Last edited by Brink; 29 May 2013 at 16:41. Reason: fixed format to meet "News" posting guidelines

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    Thanks. That is what I get for RDPing into too many systems and not paying attention to what I'm doing!
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    While there are many contributing factors to the traditional PC business getting the stuffing knocked out of it, the Windows 8 train wreck has certainly accelerated the industry's hurtle into the abyss.
    OK.

    Lenovo benefits from an enlightened attitude toward installing and supporting Windows 7 on new machines
    Yep

    We're just starting to see the devastating effect Windows 8 has had, not only on Microsoft but on the industry as a whole.
    OK.

    And I wouldn't bet a feathered farthing that windows blue will make the situation any better.
    For pcs he may be right. I think they may do better in tablets with the new much cheaper ranges.
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    Interesting article but no real figures. Assuming that many of the tablet sales were sold to folks that just wanted to read their emails, bit of web browsing and some social networking then it's fair that they never required a desktop or laptop in the first place. Plus of course it's no longer necessary to continually upgrade the hardware as (apart from gamers) we've probably reached the peak of what is required on the traditional level.

    Personally I doubt if I'll build another desktop rig. Currently waiting to see when/if Intel launch a mk2 version of their NUC idea with USB3 so i can attach it on the back of the monitor - that's probably my next hardware upgrade.

    I'm no lover of W8, I've tried it and tried it and it's just not for me. Cannot see the point of a third party app to simply get W8 to look and operate like W7. And, I'm certainly not going to fall in love with paid for apps or cloud computing if that's the MS gameplan. All personal stuff though and what direction MS decide upon is their business.

    But I also believe there's far to much blame being sent the way of MS from the OEM's. The market has moved on in some areas and they've been caught napping by the cheapish Androids and the fashion must have buy from the fruit company.
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    It's what we've been saying all along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    It's what we've been saying all along.
    So the question really is can MS compete in the marketplace against those cheapo tablets and/or build itself as a must have fashion accessory like the fruit company has managed to do.

    It would be interesting to see where MS were now regarding market share (including those tablets). Okay, it used to be 90% plus (pre-tablet era) but doubt if it was anything like that now - but figures are figures and easily manipulated eh?
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    Not really.

    Ironically, Stevie S himself said:

    Black cars are still popular, they are just not the only cars.

    Just because lots of other colours are available - does not mean you should stop making black. It sells well. It is not 100% of the market as it once was- but lots of people buy them.

    Right now, I think all other colours together outsell black cars. As far as I know all makers still offer black cars, and they sell well.


    There will likely be about 300m pcs sold this year. There should be around that number next year, too. At some stage there will be more tablets sold in a year.

    The current difficulty for MS appears to be that in addition to those who would be moving to tablets anyway - some those who would have bought laptops are reluctant to do so.

    Even of those who are buying tablets - not many are 8 tablets.
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    This 'death of the desktop' will end up becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy unless people stop deliberately talking desktops down in favour of toys...oops, tablets and phones.

    When the 'desktop. dies, so will home/hobby computing as we know it. We'll become a world of computer-illiterate Farce-bookers and Twits using low-powered devices with limited functionality in a walled-off system (we're already well on the way). And I really have no desire to be part of that kind of 'computing'.

    To me, the big, powerful desktop or laptop equipped with powerful, functional software that I own the hard-copies of, and capable of 100% functionality without the need to be connected to the 'net, IS computing, I have no interest in a world of mobile content consumption or social networking. Take my desktop/laptop away, and you've taken away everything I love about computing. I may as well throw it away and go buy a book (and I probably will).

    Wenda.
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    Unfortunately, it does seem 8 is making the situation worse.
    I am not entirely surprised.

    The new launch and much cheaper 8.1 tablets should help MS get a bigger piece of the tablet action.

    I am not convinced that will help the laptop side. Depending on what MS do to 8.1 it might continue to get worse.
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