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Sorry, bringing back the Start menu won't help Windows 8

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    Sorry, bringing back the Start menu won't help Windows 8


    There are plenty of legitimate concerns about the Windows 8 interface. But if you think the removal of the Start menu is the root cause of those problems, you're mistaken. See for yourself.
    Sorry, but bringing back the Start menu won't help Windows 8 | ZDNet

    For what it's worth I mainly agree with him...

    I wouldn't bring back the Start Menu, but I'd definitely bring back the concept of a single Taskbar that was always visible across the whole OS.

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    New Zealand
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    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1


    I think he is missing the whole point. Nobody as far as I am aware is saying that you cannot use the phone GUI to do stuff on your computer.

    The problem is that a lot of people do not like it, do not need it and do not want it. A touch interface is totally irrelevant for their needs.

    What I would say is that bringing back the start menu and giving their customers a choice of their interface would help Windows 8.

    Because then most of the grumbling, hate, negativity, endless arguments about the usefulness and suitability of Metro on the desktop would just disappear.

    If Blue follows on from what the leaks show and offers only tweaks to Metro, this negative feedback is only going to get worse.

    Microsoft can not just rely on the fact it has a monopoly. It needs to get it's customers back on board by offering them a product that suits their needs.
    Last edited by McRuff; 24 May 2013 at 21:35. Reason: spelling
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    He made it look so easy. But to do all those setup, pinning, etc... that's the annoying part. Esp for people who is struggling to catch up with basic computing. What happened to the words "user-friendly"? Why do I have to go through all those troubles of setting up???? It could have been easier.
    Don't get me started with hot corners and charms bar. I know they work flawlessly on touchscreens. But hey, look, I've got 3 screens... when I run my cursor across my screens and accidentally hit corners... those stupid bars keep on popping up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRuff View Post
    I think he is missing the whole point. Nobody as far as I am aware is saying that you cannot use the phone GUI to do stuff on your computer.
    Anyone who has actually used Windows Phone knows that there is a massive between the phone ui and the desktop ui.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McRuff View Post
    I think he is missing the whole point. Nobody as far as I am aware is saying that you cannot use the phone GUI to do stuff on your computer.

    The problem is that a lot of people do not like it, do not need it and do not want it. A touch interface is totally irrelevant for their needs.

    What I would say is that bringing back the start menu and giving their customers a choice of their interface would help Windows 8.

    Because then most of the grumbling, hate, negativity, endless arguments about the usefulness and suitability of Metro on the desktop would just disappear.

    If Blue follows on from what the leaks show and offers only tweaks to Metro, this negative feedback is only going to get worse.

    Microsoft can not just rely on the fact it has a monopoly. It needs to get it's customers back on board by offering them a product that suits their needs.
    Hopefully somebody will pass your post on to Miss Julie. MS staff read these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Don't get me started with hot corners and charms bar. I know they work flawlessly on touchscreens.
    I had the opposite experience, when I was playing with a HP all-in-one PC in a store.

    I could touch tiles and I could even hit the little "x" on desktop programs and they worked as expected.

    No matter what mystical gestures I made, or symbols I drew, the pop-out controls would not appear.
    So much for intuitive (and I knew those invisible pop-out items existed).

    Ironically, the wireless mouse and keyboard worked perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by McRuff View Post
    I think he is missing the whole point. Nobody as far as I am aware is saying that you cannot use the phone GUI to do stuff on your computer.

    The problem is that a lot of people do not like it, do not need it and do not want it. A touch interface is totally irrelevant for their needs.

    What I would say is that bringing back the start menu and giving their customers a choice of their interface would help Windows 8.

    Because then most of the grumbling, hate, negativity, endless arguments about the usefulness and suitability of Metro on the desktop would just disappear.

    If Blue follows on from what the leaks show and offers only tweaks to Metro, this negative feedback is only going to get worse.

    Microsoft can not just rely on the fact it has a monopoly. It needs to get it's customers back on board by offering them a product that suits their needs.
    Hopefully somebody will pass your post on to Miss Julie. MS staff read these.
    How do you know?
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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Or...

    Just literally pin EVERYTHING from the start menu into the File Explorer jumplist and pin Control Panel to the Taskbar. The need for the start menu is irrelevant minus the search bar and All Programs to find a program you rarely use.

    I know this, because that's what I did with my setup and EVERY install of Windows 7 I did. Pinned EVERYTHING useful and relevant to the Taskbar, cleaned up the All Programs list, start menu becomes a vestigial piece of UI.
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    It's not JUST the missing Start Menu - It's the hiding of "Safe Mode" under layers of forced-reboots you must do to get to it - Not to mention, if the OS is not working perfectly, you cannot get to any of those areas.
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    Julie said so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by McRuff View Post
    I think he is missing the whole point. Nobody as far as I am aware is saying that you cannot use the phone GUI to do stuff on your computer.

    The problem is that a lot of people do not like it, do not need it and do not want it. A touch interface is totally irrelevant for their needs.

    What I would say is that bringing back the start menu and giving their customers a choice of their interface would help Windows 8.

    Because then most of the grumbling, hate, negativity, endless arguments about the usefulness and suitability of Metro on the desktop would just disappear.

    If Blue follows on from what the leaks show and offers only tweaks to Metro, this negative feedback is only going to get worse.

    Microsoft can not just rely on the fact it has a monopoly. It needs to get it's customers back on board by offering them a product that suits their needs.
    Hopefully somebody will pass your post on to Miss Julie. MS staff read these.
    How do you know?
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