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More than half of Windows 8 users just treat it like Win 7

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Well, having that third party program IS a choice. Had MS really wanted to take the choice from you, they would have written the OS in such a way to prevent any start menu from ever resurfacing.

    Let me ask you this. On your personal PC, how many third party programs do you use? Or are you one of those that refuses to install anything third party and whine about the lack of choice?
    Microsoft actually did remove the choice from one of the preview versions when some smart cookie found a way to bring back the start menu via a registry edit. It subsequently required third party programmers to develop a workaround because of the demand for the start menu. There is nothing saying that Microsoft won't do the same with the third party programs, as they all apparently work from within Windows Explorer Shell or some such.

    In your question, you are confusing third party programs that return an OS feature removed by Microsoft (or you're being deliberately disingenuous) and comparing them with third party programs that provide features that are supported/only function via an OS. It's a completely different issue.
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  2. #12


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    Too right. I never, ever go into the Start screen anymore (Start8, thank you!). The apps there are just abbreviated versions of what I can get much better on a web page. Even my ModermMix from Stardock is not getting used.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 7 uiltimate, Windows 8.1 pro 64bit, Windows server 2008R2, Windows 10 TP


    I use windows 8 on my main home pc now.. but I use it only in desktop mode. installed Start is back (windows 7 start menu restore) set up to boot directly to desktop. and I never use modern ui and appz unless I have to and thank god that is rarely.

    I like improvements in windows 8 its faster and more slick and I like file explorer ribbon ui, new file copy/move etc optimizations.

    But modern ui and apps is just not suited for my work flow. I'm usually multitasking, so I always need to see taskbar and other open windows (like Skype video chat, progress of some compilation or rendering, video player window and start menu all at the same time ). so full screen menu is not a good thing for me I prefer start menu that takes around 20-30% of my work space and programs that have windows so I can resize them not to fixed 75:25 or even 50:50 but to any location and size I like.

    If I want single task only multitasking I have my android phone with small screen, thank you.
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    Windows 8 Pro


    Nice 'journalism' there.

    Whatever.
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    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    TIFKAM
    [Off topic]
    I love the fact that, while I don't remember ever seeing the term "TIFKAM" before, I understood what it meant.

    Kudos to a certain prolific and quirky musician for bringing the phrase "formerly known as" into the language.
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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    goodintentions
    Well, having that third party program IS a choice.
    Henry Ford was known for "any colour as long as it is black"
    Of course, it was possible to get tin of paint and a brush and paint it yourself. You have an interesting idea of offering choice in product.

    goodintentions
    Had MS really wanted to take the choice from you, they would have written the OS in such a way to prevent any start menu from ever resurfacing.
    They did prevent the registry hack they knew many were using. They also removed much of the start menu code from shell32. According to Thurrotts contacts at MS, that was deliberate.

    Now they know so many are using programs which can still function, in spite of what they have done. They dare not deliberately stop them. There would be an outcry. MS must also realise by now the 3rd party shell/start menu programs are actually helping them.
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    If you are going to post something absurd, you could at least try and make it funny, as opposed to crass.
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  9. #19


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    Win 8 (64) : Win 7 (64) : Vista (64) : Android JB 4.2 : iOS 6


    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Now you've upset the apple cart!
    See, it's lines like this that makes me think you hate windows 8. You keep caricaturizing what people like me are saying.

    I think it is a good thing that half the people out there only use the desktop portion of windows 8. It's called CHOICE. If people are happier with the desktop, more power to them. I'm very happy for them. I want CHOICES. I don't want to force anyone to do anything. Windows 8 gives you a CHOICE to either use the new UI or stay with the old. Installing classic shell is perhaps the easiest thing in the world, and it's free.

    Why do you hate CHOICE?
    We didn't have CHOICE. MS did not offer any choice. We are FORCED to use 3rd party app to put Win 8 in good use. It would be very nice of MS if, when you use the PC for the first time, they will ask you to select if you are using a Touchscreen or not and then install the appropriate UI (ex. Start menu on non-touchscreens). That, my friend is a choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    TIFKAM
    [Off topic]
    I love the fact that, while I don't remember ever seeing the term "TIFKAM" before, I understood what it meant.

    Kudos to a certain prolific and quirky musician for bringing the phrase "formerly known as" into the language.
    [/Off topic]
    "TAFKAP"

    My friends and I started calling him "Mr Squiggle" (Australians will probably get the reference).
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