Hey, Teflon Ballmer....time to quit...???

Hey, Teflon Ballmer. Look, isn't it time? You know, time to quit? ? The Register

[h=2]Hey, Teflon Ballmer. Look, isn't it time? You know, time to quit?[/h]
Microsoft chief defies pundits by hanging on - we reveal how

Analysis Those who upgraded to Windows 8 aren't the only ones unhappy with the new touch-driven operating system - Wall Street is too. Just don't expect any of the criticism hurled at Steve "Teflon" Ballmer, Microsoft's shy and retiring boss, to stick.
The chief executive is under fire from money men who responded to tech reporters trolling the markets for blistering opinions on Microsoft's leadership, given that: PC sales are crashing; Windows Phone 8 smartmobes are in fourth place in the US mobile OS market; and Windows 8 Surface gadgets are barely on the worldwide tablet sales charts. The new touchscreen-friendly Windows has not been that well received, resulting the software giant undoing decisions made at the highest levels.


"Certainly investors think Ballmer's the wrong guy," Ed Maguire, an analyst at investment biz CLSA Asia-Pacific Markets, told The Telegraph. "You could make the argument that he missed tablets and he missed smartphones, and that these are the two areas of technology that really count."


And Fort Pitt Capital Group analyst and former programmer Caughey Forrest hankered for a Bill Gates-like geek in the seat. "That's what is missing - a charismatic technology leader," she told the broadsheet.
Ironically, as we shall see, a certain charismatic tech leader is keeping Ballmer firmly on the throne, for now.
[h=3]But first, who exactly is taking the heat for the Windows 8 defeat?[/h] Last week, Windows group chief marketing and financial officer Tami Reller was finally handed the white flag and given the job of walking out into no man's land with a mea culpa to deliver from Microsoft: she confirmed the company will shift from "no compromises" on Windows' new Metro design to reinstating the familiar desktop Start menu.

By any measure, heads should roll: Windows 8 was Microsoft's big bet on the future, a supposedly seamless segue from keyboard and mouse to a world of touchscreen tablets and laptops. That bet has gone horribly wrong for Redmond's executives, to the point where the software giant is being blamed for knackering PC sales the world over.
Windows group chief Steven Sinofsky, the process king who made Microsoft's Office train run on time before bulldozing aside any and all objections to Windows 8, left the company suddenly and without explanation mid-way through the Windows 8 launch cycle in November 2012.

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Comedy gold.:roflmao:

I like how the article blames everything on MS, assumes no one likes 8, and puts words in Reller's mouth about the fact they are bringing back the start button.

I love fiction.:thumbsup:
 

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she confirmed the company will shift from no compromises on Windows' new Metro design to reinstating the familiar desktop Start menu.

When did Tami say that - have I missed something?
 

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We know - you keep posting fiction.



Comedy gold.:roflmao:

I like how the article blames everything on MS, assumes no one likes 8, and puts words in Reller's mouth about the fact they are bringing back the start button.

I love fiction.:thumbsup:
 

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she confirmed the company will shift from no compromises on Windows' new Metro design to reinstating the familiar desktop Start menu.

When did Tami say that - have I missed something?

She did not. Thus, fiction.
 

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A small misquote, then. It happens.
 

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I sometimes wonder if companies shills into forums, or they take it on their own, to start defending every product criticism to the hilt. No normal person can be so much in love with a major corporation and especially one of its products, to so refuse to understand and accept other's criticisms.
 

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Wall Street doesn't like Windows 8? Have I missed a whole year or something because at last check, Microsoft stock has been going nowhere but up. It's at a five year high.
 

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Hi there

If Only : (From the BBC TV series The Apprentice).

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Wall Street doesn't like Windows 8? Have I missed a whole year or something because at last check, Microsoft stock has been going nowhere but up. It's at a five year high.

From what little I know about it, I hear Wall Streets current state has no connection to reality.
 

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I sometimes wonder if companies shills into forums, or they take it on their own, to start defending every product criticism to the hilt. No normal person can be so much in love with a major corporation and especially one of its products, to so refuse to understand and accept other's criticisms.

Look, I've never said windows 8 was perfect. In fact, you can find threads around that I've started criticizing certain aspects of windows 8. When evaluating windows 8, I try to be as objective as possible. For instance, I think the metro tiles are confusing because everything looks like squares and rectangles. We humans have an inbuilt ability to recognize patterns, and that's why icons work so well.

You, on the other hand, hates everything about windows 8 and wants to believe that everyone else hates it as well.

I'm telling you now. Most people don't care about the UI change. Most people, and I mean 9 out of 10 people, will use whatever software that came with their computers when they bought it. Only a hand full of us actually care what crap was preinstalled on our devices and uninstall them. A minute few even go as far as make a fresh reinstall of the system every time they got something new. But 9 out of 10 people will just use whatever that came with the device.

The notion that everyone shares your exaggerated dislike of windows 8 is delusional. This isn't 2nd grade where you are made to believe you are special.

There are criticisms of windows 8 that are valid. I admit this, because I have the same criticisms. The lack of a start button or menu ain't one of them.

Edit.

I used to sell on ebay. One time, a buyer bought an expensive electronic item from me. All my items had free 2 day shipping. When it arrived, he claimed it was defective. I immediately overnighted another item with a prepaid box inside for him to send it back to me. I even included bubble wraps for him to wrap up the defective item. He just put it in the box without any cushion and sent it back to me. Didn't hear from him for a week after that, so I thought everything was fine. The item I receive back, if it wasn't defective then it was defective now because it was flying around in that box. I took the loss of about 400 schmachos there.

About a week later, I got a negative review from him. Even though the first item was shipped out same day as ordered via 2 day, and the second item was overnighted, his review said long wait time. Also bad service, rude emails, etc.

The way you are criticizing windows 8 is beginning to remind me of this customer. You're not just exaggerating your displeasure with windows 8. You're going out of your way to calling press conferences, misquoting articles, caricaturize aspects of windows 8, etc.

I'm so glad I stopped selling on ebay. Some people on there like to order just so they could give a negative review. One time I got an order on Friday night of labor day weekend. Saturday morning I started getting nasty emails demanding I ship out the item right away. I politely replied that it was labor day weekend and nothing worked until Tuesday morning. Got about a dozen more hate mails demanding I ship it out over the course of the labor day weekend. Tuesday morning I got a nice negative review with comment that said I refused to ship it out. He also canceled the order.
 

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Goodintentions,

I am pretty sure RAY8 post was not aimed at you.

I don't think he hates everything about 8 or MS or anything of the kind. That is not what he has been posting.

His posts seem perfectly reasonable to me. Even though I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, I defend his right to say it.

Goodintentions
You, [Ray8] on the other hand, hates everything about windows 8 and wants to believe that everyone else hates it as well.

Where did you get that idea from?
 

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Goodintentions,

I am pretty sure RAY8 post was not aimed at you.

I don't think he hates everything about 8 or MS or anything of the kind. That is not what he has been posting.

His posts seem perfectly reasonable to me. Even though I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, I defend his right to say it.

Goodintentions
You, [Ray8] on the other hand, hates everything about windows 8 and wants to believe that everyone else hates it as well.

Where did you get that idea from?

My mistake. I was thinking of someone else.
 

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IMPEACH Microsoft for Windows 8 - And Umbrellas!
 

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You, on the other hand, hates everything about windows 8 and wants to believe that everyone else hates it as well.

First off, my quote was a general observation reflecting on how some defend Windows 8 like some Apple owners defend Apple. An irrational devotion to something created to simply make money (off you).

I have said it many time before and I'll repeat it once again, I believe that the Windows 8 underlying OS is an excellent development from Windows 7; however, what I dislike, for my own personal use, is the user interface. I do not find the start screen (Mobile Phone Interface - MPI) at all rewarding or pleasant to use. I have no issue if others love it.

Microsoft could easily have allowed people to have a full Windows 7 style UI or the current one, with Windows 8, if they had wanted to do so. From their own admission about subscription services, they have said it's too early to go this way because people are not used to it vs what Adobe is doing. So why on earth did they do exactly that with Windows 8 and not allow an alternative?

And I believe that is really the only criticism that people have with Windows 8, the forced adoption of a UI that isn't necessary. That criticism needs to maintained so that Microsoft keeps hearing it until they understand and address the criticisms, and it should not subside or Microsoft will assume that all is now good.
 

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And I believe that is really the only criticism that people have with Windows 8, the forced adoption of a UI that isn't necessary. That criticism needs to maintained so that Microsoft keeps hearing it until they understand and address the criticisms, and it should not subside or Microsoft will assume that all is now good.

Very well said
 

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And I believe that is really the only criticism that people have with Windows 8, the forced adoption of a UI that isn't necessary. That criticism needs to maintained so that Microsoft keeps hearing it until they understand and address the criticisms, and it should not subside or Microsoft will assume that all is now good.

Very well said
  • :ditto:
 

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I'm telling you now. Most people don't care about the UI change. Most people, and I mean 9 out of 10 people, will use whatever software that came with their computers when they bought it. Only a hand full of us actually care what crap was preinstalled on our devices and uninstall them. A minute few even go as far as make a fresh reinstall of the system every time they got something new. But 9 out of 10 people will just use whatever that came with the device.


Keep yer hands where I can see them, and step away from the bong....:D
 

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Agreed

And I believe that is really the only criticism that people have with Windows 8, the forced adoption of a UI that isn't necessary. That criticism needs to maintained so that Microsoft keeps hearing it until they understand and address the criticisms, and it should not subside or Microsoft will assume that all is now good.

Very well said
  • :ditto:

:ditto:

Agreed.
 

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^^^ :ditto:

...criticism needs to maintained so that Microsoft keeps hearing it until they understand...
Yes.
...the Windows 8 underlying OS is an excellent development...
Yes. Sadly MS is trying hard to impair that very development by trying to inflict everyone with their phone-toy UI.
 

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