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Dell replays Windows 8 blame card as PC sales slide

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    Dell and enterprises diss Windows 8 big-time

    If selling and buying operating systems were a football game, Dell and enterprises might be called for piling on, because within the last several days both of them have given big thumbs-downs to Windows 8. This is just the latest in a long series of bad news for the newest version of Windows.
    Dell and enterprises diss Windows 8 big-time | Computerworld Blogs

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    British pc builders have reported similar. Up to 90% of their sales have 7 on them.

    It is much easier for them to respond to than it is for the oems.
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    "Windows 8 has been, from our standpoint, not necessarily the catalyst to drive accelerated growth that we had hoped it would be," said Brian Gladden, Dell's CFO,
    That's extremely polite.

    I expect Mike Dell saw it coming.
    Michael Dell announced in February that he planned to take the company private in a deal with Silver Lake Partners
    Dell profit dives 79 percent on falling PC sales - Computerworld

    shareholders, who think the company is worth more than Michael Dell and his partners have offered... Dell's biggest outside investor... indicated it might go to court to fight for a higher price.
    Seems to be getting messy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    OEM's must be stupid. If Windows 8 is not selling, offer Windows 7 as its been called MS greatest OS. They rather blame someone else for their lack of management.

    Jim
    That is the reason that Lenovo was positive in there sales they did offer windows 7 to its customers in my opinion.
    As well as offering desirable touch PC models that Lenovo even said is selling more than they thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    As most on here keep telling MS to give us a choice. Well the OEM's should do the same. Stop shipping Windows 8 and start shipping Windows 7 systems. I am sure they have not stopped their production of systems. When Windows 7 systems show up at retail then the PC sales will soar to new heights and everybody will be happy. Those that want Windows 8 can still get new systems and then MOST people can get Windows 7 systems and everyone is happy.

    Jim
    Actually, PC sales would still be stagnant. The trend of phablet computing will continue to undermine the laptop PC with Windows 7, Windows marketshare will start to go down, OEMs will start building more android phablets and hybrids that offer things that Windows 7 laptops don't at lower prices, and then therefore undermine EVERYTHING.

    Everyone is happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    OEM's must be stupid. If Windows 8 is not selling, offer Windows 7 as its been called MS greatest OS. They rather blame someone else for their lack of management.

    Jim
    Do we not know about the fact that PC sales were starting to slow even when Windows 7 was out on those PCs?
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    I was being sarcastic that Windows 7 would save the PC market. Lots of posts on here about what MOST people want so I just threw that in. I have not talked to MOST people so I don't know why they are not buying or what they are buying. I know I won't be buying anything for a while because my current systems (Windows 7 and Windows 8) which are 4 years old are just fine and I don't have a lot of cash to just throw around. So maybe I am part of the 14% that is not buying. Actually I wouldn't buy Dell in any case.

    Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    I was being sarcastic that Windows 7 would save the PC market. Lots of posts on here about what MOST people want so I just threw that in. I have not talked to MOST people so I don't know why they are not buying or what they are buying. I know I won't be buying anything for a while because my current systems (Windows 7 and Windows 8) which are 4 years old are just fine and I don't have a lot of cash to just throw around. So maybe I am part of the 14% that is not buying. Actually I wouldn't buy Dell in any case.

    Jim
    I kind of figured you were being sarcastic.

    Just added in the counter argument some think that if Windows 7 were out right now, PC sales would be skyrocketing.

    But if I can momentarily hijack this thread, the new Xbox One has been announced officially by Microsoft and the comments on Neowin and WP Central about it basically state, "I'm buying this at launch. Please shut up and take my money right now." This will be great for Windows 8, Microsoft, PC gaming, and AMD. Since the new Xbox has Windows 8 kernel at its core, wow! The thing is essentially a gaming rig with Windows, so this theoretically could mean more PC style gaming on the Xbox, and more top titles from Xbox could theoretically make their way to the Windows PCs.
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    What can possibly be so complicated about this?! Although they will always be needed mostly by business and power users, desktop PC sales have flat lined. It's still a market, but not the biggest anymore. Surely MS saw this coming. That's why 8 with the new touch-centric UI and all the rest of the changes, additions, and the Surfaces.

    It's clear that people want to be mobile. Mobile devices are the new market. It's huge. Ask Apple and Google. Too bad MS partner OEMs can't read it right. MS had to be telling them this all along. After all, they're partners.

    So far is Dell is concerned, what the hell is made in America anymore at a competing price?!! Especially electronic hardware. It's an Asian-dominated industry. Software yes, hardware, no. We are a service-oriented economy here now for the most part. They predicted that back in the 70's. No big news here. Perhaps that's why Michael Dell sold out? Look at Motorola. Goofy Google buys that?!! For the great American name only. It'll all be assembled in Asia just like iCrap and the like.

    We in construction are lucky for they haven't figured out a way to import totally assembled buildings at a competing price > yet. Component materials yes. Assembled no. But, I see the day coming. Perhaps in cubes or panelized.

    And just for your reading pleasure, lookup Chinese drywall sold in America. What a fiasco that was.
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    And yet there are those on here who insist that if they put windows 7 on the PC's that the sales would go up. I don't understand how they could ignore the fact that PC sales took a nosedive long before windows 8 came out. It's always been an inevitable trend. Most people (9 out of 10) want devices for consumption purposes. Before, they bought laptops because they didn't have any other choice. If they just wanted to do emails and media consumption, why get another laptop when they could just get a phablet?
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