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  1. #81


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    most people hate windows 8.
    I am not sure most people hate 8. That is a strong word. Certainly there are some who dislike it very strongly and have gone to the effort and expense of returning the machines or upgrading to 7.

    Put simply, people will buy something either because they need it ( e.g. water ), or because they like it.

    It is pretty clear a significant number of potential customers do not like 8.

    One might leave the sludgy green jumper on the shelf at Marks and Spencer - because one does not like it. Does that qualify as hate?

    A distant aunt might give you the sludgy green jumper as a present. You might say to yourself/your friend - yuck - I will take that back and get something else. Does that qualify as hate?

    As a result, the sludgy green jumpers do not sell very well.

    There are other factors , of course. The green jumper doesn't sell at $39.99. But it may if they reduced it to $9.99.

    Would that mean everybody has suddenly started liking the sludgy green colour?

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  2. #82


    Posts : 123
    Windows 8, 2012, 7, 2008R2, 2008, 2003, XP,SUSE


    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    I like the idea of a windows store very much, though I have not found a whole lot of good apps within it to date. The start menu was just good to have, and based on the way she used her desktop, the start screen might wind up being redundant for her. To each there own, as the saying goes.
    Personally, I haven't found one app in the app store that there isn't a better experience by just going to the web page or having the full windows app. Seriously, I just can't see the need for any of it when you are on a PC.

    Plus, just attempting to work on a modern UI app is frustrating. No close button, can't have two of them on the screen at the same time and the only way to really close a metro app is to kill it off by using the task manager.
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  3. #83


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    I believe the next os (8.1) will let you have more than one open.

    I don't know if that is enough to make any real difference to the acceptance of the metro annoyance for pc users , I doubt it.

    Very funny remark I saw recently:

    ..they avoid the Start Screen like a leper wearing a loud shirt
    More than half of Windows 8 users just treat it like Win 7
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  4. #84


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Been using W8 on flagship since February. Overall good. A few glitches with USB3 ports and optical drives because Intel don't support W8 on my mobo. So limited to W8 generic drivers.

    Use "Start is Back", with Modern Start Menu totally and permanently turned off. Have absolutely no use for it.

    ..they avoid the Start Screen like a leper wearing a loud shirt
    Good one SIW2
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  5. #85


    Toronto, Canada. Born in the U.K.
    Posts : 691
    Win 10 Pro + Win 7 Ult SP1 (x64)


    Some may benefit from this training brochure put out in .pdf format by Microsoft.

    Download Windows 8 End User Training Brochure from Official Microsoft Download Center
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  6. #86


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    Mustang
    Use "Start is Back", with Modern Start Menu totally and permanently turned off. Have absolutely no use for it.
    Sorry to tell you this.

    In the leaked versions, MS have prevented startisback from working. 8.1 release will probably be the same.

    Tihiy will have to make something else. He has made an absolute fortune in a few months. Good luck to him.
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  7. #87


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    If M$ are so arrogant as to not only fail to provide a legacy Start Menu; but also block all third party ones ... then I will be going back to Win7. Or ... and it's becoming more and more a strong probable ... go to Mac.

    It's bad enough to have Modern shoved down your throat, but to block third party apps to fix it is too much. Enough is enough. I personally know two members of Win7 Forums who have been very big contributors to that forum and they have both gone over to Mac. They both said they were not coming back.

    It seems M$ are hell bent on putting many customers off side.
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  8. #88


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
    Some may benefit from this training brochure put out in .pdf format by Microsoft.

    Download Windows 8 End User Training Brochure from Official Microsoft Download Center


    That looks like a very useful document.

    I think it would benefit new users who come to the Forum seeking support - I wonder if this should be re-posted as a "Sticky" in the General Support section?
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  9. #89


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    I just love this comment from the link:

    Windows has been reimagined to be all about you and your style of working.
    Who is this 'you' that Microsoft is talking about?

    And from the PDF (page 14):

    Make the taskbar your own.

    On the desktop, you can enjoy the traditional work style you’re used to. The taskbar is a big part of that, and you can customize it to work like you do.
    But they don't show anything of the desktop, anywhere!
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  10. #90


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    At least one oem says MS are driving millions into the arms of Apple and Google.

    MS are removing their own code which the shell/start menu replacements might use. There will still be start menu replacements. Those which run their own services will be able to work around what MS are up to.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    If M$ are so arrogant as to not only fail to provide a legacy Start Menu; but also block all third party ones ... then I will be going back to Win7. Or ... and it's becoming more and more a strong probable ... go to Mac.

    It's bad enough to have Modern shoved down your throat, but to block third party apps to fix it is too much. Enough is enough. I personally know two members of Win7 Forums who have been very big contributors to that forum and they have both gone over to Mac. They both said they were not coming back.

    It seems M$ are hell bent on putting many customers off side.
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