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  1. #61


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    I really think Microsoft is in denial that Windows 8 is so maligned, that it's just people's misunderstanding. I mean, look at how some here try to justify Windows 8, frequently suggesting that it's the user at fault.

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  2. #62


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Depends what you mean by denial.

    There are a number of possibilities, including:

    1) They know what the customers are asking for, and they deliver. They are keeping it quiet to elicit maximum rejoicing.

    2) They know what the customers are asking for, but that does not suit MS purpose. They attempt some kind of fudge.

    3) They know what the customers are asking for, but that does not suit MS purpose. They attempt some kind of fudge.
    If they get another public roasting, they switch to option 1 for the release version.
    Roasting might be a little mild from reality.
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  3. #63


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    It reminds me of the stuff I used to put on my garden to help the plants grow.
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  4. #64


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I really think Microsoft is in denial
    I don't think so. Unless everyone at MS is suffering from a psychological disorder (and I am sure they are not), there is only one way they could fail to understand:

    If they had all been locked in sensory deprivation chamber for the past 12 months.
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  5. #65


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    I've seen this sort of stuff in corporate environments previously. Some chief comes up with a grand idea to boost productivity, quality, whatever and everyone has to toe the line, no questioning, no dissent etc allowed. When issues arise that many have predicted, the chief and loyal acolytes refuse to believe that the process etc is wrong, it's the people not willing to accept the changes that is the underlying problem. It can take years before the bleeding obvious is finally accepted and the idea given a quiet burial, usually by a new chief.
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  6. #66


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I understand what you are getting at. Plenty were telling RIM they were heading for trouble. RIM couldn't see it. It was more complicated - and they were posting what they thought were great figures.

    This is a different situation.

    MS certainly know what the situation is.

    They might choose to use a combination of fudging and persistence to try and force what they are after. But that would be a deliberate choice.
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  7. #67


    Posts : 219
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    It has been almost a year, and I still have yet to interact with anyone outside of this forum, who thinks the start screen is better than the old start menu. I work in IT, and I interact with a ton of computer users. I have yet to hear anyone express anything other than disdain for the start screen. Most everyone I have talked with thinks it is a colorful turd, and I still get calls from folks weekly with Windows 8 asking for help getting the start menu back. Therefore, I cannot imagine how anyone can say that they think the start screen is better as it currently exists. I personally think it is un-intuitive to a fault. Maybe if we had full size customizeable icons that were halfway decent, rather than boxes with tiny icons in the corner (yes I know there are apps that can accomplish this - they all suck and take a lot of work to pull off) I might find it easier to locate what I am looking for. Maybe if I could drag several icons on top of each other and make a folder full of icons with an actual label like - music apps or something, I would feel different about the start screen. As it is, once you have about 50 programs installed on your computer, the start screen becomes a ridiculous mire, bog, swamp of meaningless links to various functions, that is just another silly thing to be maintained on the system. It is poorly executed, and provides absolutely no needed functionality for a mouse user that we lacked with the start menu. It does however, provide a lot of headache! Those who say that it is somehow better, are a very small niche. Even when I go into Fry's or Best buy, or any computer store for that matter, I have yet to talk with a single employee with anything good to say about metro. Your opinion in very much in the minority and you need to wake up to this FACT!
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  8. #68


    Obviously those those of you that work I.T. run into and know more people that used computers than most of us that are not professionals. I sincerely listen to that, but as a member of this forum I've noticed in the forum surveys that more members than not like and use Windows 8. Of course, we are a designated group here, not the general public.
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  9. #69


    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    It has been almost a year, and I still have yet to interact with anyone outside of this forum, who thinks the start screen is better than the old start menu.
    I'm a windows 8 fan and I don't think the start screen is necessarily better than the start menu. *ahem install classic shell*

    I work in IT, and I interact with a ton of computer users. I have yet to hear anyone express anything other than disdain for the start screen.
    I used to work in IT, and what I came away from it is people will complain about anything that's new. Can we all agree that windows 7 was and is a great OS? Can we agree that windows xp was pretty good as well? I remember people having nothing but disdain for both of these systems before they got used to them. XP was too child-like. 7 was too different.

    I'm just sayin'. Most people I've interacted are indifferent about the new UI. For those of us who enjoy it, it's there. If you don't enjoy it, install classic shell. It will pretty much bring you back to windows 7 style.
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  10. #70


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Obviously those those of you that work I.T. run into and know more people that used computers than most of us that are not professionals. I sincerely listen to that, but as a member of this forum I've noticed in the forum surveys that more members than not like and use Windows 8. Of course, we are a designated group here, not the general public.
    Not necessarily so. Those who work in IT run into (you guessed it) people who have problems with their PC's. Why would you go to an IT processional if you didn't have any problem? Hello? Yes, hi, I just want to tell you guys that I have no problem at all with my PC. Just wanted to waste your time so you can't help the guy that really has a problem.

    And even then, from my experience most of the problems with computers are caused by what's between the keyboard and the chair. Back in my IT days, I had people calling in infuriated that the printer didn't show up in the printer list even though I installed it for them the day before. I had to calmly tell them to scroll the printer list down to find that printer. Obviously, I got a bad review from that because people almost always don't want to admit they're idiots.

    Anyway, I'm just sayin'. Going off of the opinions of people who regularly like to interact with IT people isn't exactly the best way to get the general public's opinion on these things. Usually, they like to whine more than anything else. Between whining and getting things fixed and done, they will choose whine.
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