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  1. #141


    Posts : 123
    Windows 8, 2012, 7, 2008R2, 2008, 2003, XP,SUSE


    Quote Originally Posted by jmarsh07 View Post
    I don't really know why there has been such an outcry about the start button, it may not be physically there, but if you just right-click the bottom left hand corner of your screen you'll find just about anything you could possibly need is there.
    People really need to read manuals or look up what they need to know before installing ANYTHING!!! And definitely before ranting about a program. Win 8 does need improvement, (boot to desktop for PC -as most of us PC gamers will probably never use touch on our desktops), but all in all I like it. (and I have used every instance of Windows since 3.1 -didn't like, went back to DOS until they got it right - Win 98 SE - though I did try 95 and the first 98) and have moved to each new instance with very few problems.
    I guess some people just don't like change.
    This is the kind of arrogant thought process that just pisses me off. RTFM?! I have forgotten more about computers than you will ever know. It's not about not liking change or not understanding enough about the OS. The modern UI has no place in business and holy crap it needs to die in the server world. Not liking change?! As an IT professional, change is a constant factor. But it has to be smart change, a change for the better, we have to see some benefit from the change. Oh, and I have used every OS from Microsoft from DOS 1 including every MS server OS plus dozens of Linux distros, Unix, apple,...


    When the first copy of windows 8 came out, I was the program director of two college programs, the alpha IT guru of the college, had more current Microsoft certification than everyone else in the school combined and I had to Google how to shut it down.

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  2. #142


    VA USA
    Posts : 349
    W8.1up1 Pro x64 w/media center


    removed due to non-comprehension of my words..
    Last edited by HOODY; 14 Jun 2013 at 14:45.
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  3. #143


    Posts : 123
    Windows 8, 2012, 7, 2008R2, 2008, 2003, XP,SUSE


    It's not about evolution, it is about a really crappy design for non touch devices like laptops, desktop PC and servers. Metro/modern UI is worse than Bob was to windows 95. At best isn't intuitive, St worse it is just plain broken as I have already mentioned about when installing certain Microsoft products that will never show up in the Modern UI or by searching for them (visual studio). Throwing all the icons to every exe on one page unsorted is a good idea? Why is my steam icon next to a group of SQL programs? Does that make any sense to you?
    It isn't evolution but a huge step back in UI
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  4. #144


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Windows8 Modern would have to be the biggest snow job ever perpetrated by any commercial company in history. It puts the worst snake oil charlatan salesman to shame!
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  5. #145


    [QUOTE=JohnBurns;243839][QUOTE=jimbo45;243689]Hi there
    What about when the Gas meter guy comes round. These people used to have hand held "Psion" like devices - now they just use a Tablet -- so there ARE some valid business applications for tablets.

    Gas meter guys still come around? Our gas and electric services are directly connected by computer, so they can read the meters from the central office and also tell if an outage occurs, etc. Oh, the wonders of electronics.......
    Yes, they do, used to be every quarter but nowadays people give the meter readings online, so they do it once or twice a year.
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  6. #146


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by turbofish View Post
    When the first copy of windows 8 came out, I was the program director of two college programs, the alpha IT guru of the college, had more current Microsoft certification than everyone else in the school combined and I had to Google how to shut it down.
    I say this with no intent other than to just say ! given your experience alt f4 ,should have been your first choice
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  7. #147


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Also had to Google to find out how to shut it down the first time I used it. I think a lot of people did. Actually I think it may of been the second or third time I booted it up, I got tired of reaching under my desk and pushing the power button on my case to shut down.
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  8. #148


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I also have to say I'm not all that impressed with the paint ball approach to putting tiles on the Start Screen when installing programs.
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  9. #149


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    I would not have touched W8 with a barge pole if I had not been able to:

    • Totally switch off Modern/Charms
    • Restore direct boot to desktop
    • Restore legacy start button/menu



    It still rankles me that I have to use 3rd party app to make it work the way I want it to. Not the way M$ try to force you to use it.

    In the early release days they even blocked the ability to restore an alpha numeric cascaded start menu.
    If they were positively trying to prevent sales they certainly succeeded!
    Last edited by Mustang; 15 Jun 2013 at 04:10.
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  10. #150


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by turbofish View Post
    When the first copy of windows 8 came out, I was the program director of two college programs, the alpha IT guru of the college, had more current Microsoft certification than everyone else in the school combined and I had to Google how to shut it down.
    I say this with no intent other than to just say ! given your experience alt f4 ,should have been your first choice
    The point he's making is that he was looking for an icon to click to shut it down ... not a keyboard command. Traditionally in the past there has always been more than one way to shut down a PC. But the most obvious and traditional way was mysteriously deeply hidden under a layer of mouse clicks.

    The reason is obvious. M$ want to make it as hard as possible to use the old methods. But in this case of a shut down button it's insane thinking along the lines of: "Lets make it as hard as possible to find the shut down button!" Totally unintuitive. And they wonder why W8 is being lambasted on almost every forum you visit? Wake up and smell the roses Microsoft!
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