Windows 'Blue' will leave Microsoft customers seeing red

Reflecting on my expectations for Microsoft's forthcoming Windows "Blue," I'm reminded of a favorite "Deep Thought" by Jack Handey, from "Saturday Night Live." In this passage, instead of taking his little nephew to Disneyland, Handey takes him to a burned-out warehouse and tells him Disneyland has burned down:
He cried and cried, but I think that deep down, he thought it was a pretty good joke.
Is Microsoft playing some kind of trick on us? Forgive the corniness, but the early scoop on Windows "Blue" has this tech analyst seeing red.

It's the customers, stupid
Why am I so indignant? I'm not going to say it; instead, I'll let a comment off Paul Thurrott's Windows Supersite about the new features do the talking. There, Grapemanca says:
But there's got to be much more than this, right? As a Desktop user who runs Win8 with Stardock's Start8 and ModernMix, I'm not sure I can see anything here that I'll even notice. We still can't boot directly to desktop. We still waste an amazing amount of space around the Modern [Metro] UI edges. We still can't see basic functions on a UI that is purportedly a graphic user interface. We still can't resize Modern apps to the dimensions that suit us. We're still forced to use a keyboard to maximize efficiency ... à la DOS. We still don't have a brand-new Windows that's maximized for the desktop. Talk about underwhelmed.​


We'll know soon enough if we're being led to Disneyland or a burned-out warehouse. If it's the latter, will it be too late to go back? If Microsoft really wants to show customers that it's listening, it needs to drop the secrecy immediately and spell out the changes it plans to make to address the complaints.
Otherwise, Microsoft risks making them so angry that by the time the company gives them what they want, they won't care anymore.

Windows 'Blue' will leave Microsoft customers seeing red | Microsoft Windows - InfoWorld

 
I purchased Smart8 long ago but now a days I don't even install it. I got used to the new Start Menu and to me it is faster, all my main programs are either on the taskbar (to the left, old style, in the quick launch bar which I still install and find the best yet) or at two fast clicks away where I dont need any accuracy (left down corner, click, app tile click, done, very fast).
 

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I purchased Smart8 long ago but now a days I don't even install it. I got used to the new Start Menu and to me it is faster, all my main programs are either on the taskbar (to the left, old style, in the quick launch bar which I still install and find the best yet) or at two fast clicks away where I dont need any accuracy (left down corner, click, app tile click, done, very fast).

Completely agree. Uninstalled Smart8 some time ago once I'd learned the new start menu. Works good as is, IMO.
 

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It's the customers, stupid...

He's right about that.

Some forum regulars can't understand it

M$ has customers not after windows blue hits the public I know one for sure that will never be a M$ customer correction make that 2.
 

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Can an organisation be so blind as to what it's customers want? Or has this become personal, where someone's hobby horse has been rejected by the public and they will not relent? Mea Culpa is not an option.
 

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Come on, Ray. You post as if everyone and their mothers dislike 8. :rolleyes:
 

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The only people who I've come across that like the Windows 8 MPI are the few loyalists on this and other tech forums. I have not met one person in real life or on a non-tech forum that has a good word to say about Windows 8.
 

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Ray8
I have not met one person in real life or on a non-tech forum that has a good word to say about Windows 8.


I haven't either. Although I only know a very few who have had a machine with 8 on it, so the sample size is tiny. None of them are still using it.

I have been to Selfridges and John Lewis a few times to see if I can get an idea what the feeling is among Joe Public. Again, ( at the times I was there ) very few went near the windows stuff, but of those who did, the impression wasn't good.
 

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I hardly every use the Metro screen, I hardly ever leave the desktop. So I want it as it was. If some people do it from Metro, bully for them, but they ain't me.
 

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M$ has bet the farm on metro and it is looking more and more that they are pushing its customers to Android.

Android has become a hedge against Microsoft and Windows

Hewlett-Packard rolled out another Android device this week. This could become a pattern as PC makers hedge against a world that's less about Microsoft and more about Google.
Android has become a hedge against Microsoft and Windows | Microsoft - CNET News

You could also rename this thread to.

[h=2]Windows 'Blue' will leave Microsoft customers seeing Android[/h]
 

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Come on, Ray. You post as if everyone and their mothers dislike 8. :rolleyes:

Well, to be fair, other than a handful of devotees per site, the vast majority of anecdotal evidence points to a massive rejection of the metro nonsense. It has been rejected, polishing it's knobs in blue will not change that. it's like rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.... really not much point to it...
 

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Reflecting on my expectations for

It's the customers, stupid
Why am I so indignant? I'm not going to say it; instead, I'll let a comment off Paul Thurrott's [URL="http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/virtual-hands-windows-8-blue-build-9364"]Windows Supersite
about the new features do the talking. There, Grapemanca says:
But there's got to be much more than this, right? As a Desktop user who runs Win8 with Stardock's Start8 and ModernMix, I'm not sure I can see anything here that I'll even notice. We still can't boot directly to desktop. We still waste an amazing amount of space around the Modern [Metro] UI edges. We still can't see basic functions on a UI that is purportedly a graphic user interface. We still can't resize Modern apps to the dimensions that suit us. We're still forced to use a keyboard to maximize efficiency ... à la DOS. We still don't have a brand-new Windows that's maximized for the desktop. Talk about underwhelmed.​


If you're going to post a article two days ago quoting someone bashing windows 8, atleast reference the fact that the above quote is two months old and the reviewer was testing a early leaked build (or he was reading a review of one and didn't actually test it)​
 

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If you're going to post a article two days ago quoting someone bashing windows 8, atleast reference the fact that the above quote is two months old and the reviewer was testing a early leaked build (or he was reading a review of one and didn't actually test it)

Is this true? If so, nice find! :thumbup:
 

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I wonder how many updated to the Windows GUI using MS DOS. All? Then I wonder how many updated to Windows 95? All? Then 98? All? And so on. I hardly think all did. Not all will update to 8. We will always have those that dislike the next MS OS or choose to stay with their present one for whatever reason. It's practically a fact of life.

Parks' present sig probably says it the best. :thumbup:
 

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Why brands become uncool:

The second reason brands become uncool is that they become intoxicated with their own success.

"So many brands are at the top of their game and then get arrogant and start taking their consumers for granted and people get jack of it and start abandoning them," he said.

Mr McQueen said Sony was a perfect example. The company enjoyed extraordinary success after creating the Walkman and the Discman.

"But because they dominated the marketplace when they introduced their MiniDisc player Sony kept trying to force customers to use their product," he said.

Mr McQueen said Apple and Facebook were in danger of becoming too comfortable with their success.

"When Apple pushed that upgrade through and they made people put Apple Maps on their iPhone they got a kickback," he said.

"People didn't want to be forced to do it."

The third reason brands become uncool, according to Mr McQueen, is that they become addicted to progress and grow too quickly.

Billabong fell victim to this when it branched out of surf wear and started making mainstream clothing.

"As soon as they started neglecting their core market of surfers the idea was that they were selling out," he said.

"Angus Kingsmill, head of Mambo, said this happened to them and he learned that a brand has to choose if you're going to be cool or you're going to be mainstream.

"You can't be both."

Mr McQueen said most company leaders only pay attention to easily quantifiable things like sales figures and profits, but ignore their product's relevance.

So what can a company do if they find that their relevance is slipping?

"Brands need to reconnect with consumers and not fall back on assumptions about what consumers want but actually go ask them," he said.

Why some brands become uncool | News.com.au
 

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The only people who I've come across that like the Windows 8 MPI are the few loyalists on this and other tech forums. I have not met one person in real life or on a non-tech forum that has a good word to say about Windows 8.

Same here, my business clients will not touch Windows 8 ( I am trying to appease them by saying give it another thought when 8.1 comes out) my home users bought computers from me with the stipulation that I would put in (using either classic shell or start8) the start menu on and booting to the desktop only, and making it more user friendly overall. Clients have come to me that bought it at stores, complaining how frustrating the OS is, once I make it again more user friendly they calm down but that costs them money.
No one at stores tells them anything about Windows 8 except to try to sell them a PC. so when they get it home and it looks so different out of the box than Windows 7 many have given them back to the place they purchased it.
 

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I wish we could read news about 8 improvements instead of the whining by a few trolls that clearly have the choice to use whatever os they want, instead of complaining directly to MS on their site.

No one cares. If you don't like it, leave! There is a 7 forum and MS site where trolls can whine in unison.
 

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I wish we could read news about 8 improvements instead of the whining by a few trolls that clearly have the choice to use whatever os they want, instead of complaining directly to MS on their site.

No one cares. If you don't like it, leave! There is a 7 forum and MS site where trolls can whine in unison.

When are you going to start posting good news about Window 8?
 

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