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    IIrc one of the major banks here quotes £1500 as the cost of acquiring each new customer.



    [ Completely off topic - but you might not have noticed

    New Aomei partition manager free - and free pro giveaway

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    I use Paragon Hard Disk Manager and have for some time.
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    I use Paragon Hard Disk Manager and have for some time.
    So do I.

    Never hurts to have another. Much as I am a paragon fan, this is better at recovering lost partitions. (I have the server version of aomei , but the pro is largely the same)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't get what's so difficult about removing the apps, disabling access to the Windows Store, pinning Desktop items to Start and making a custom image with that? To say THAT is difficult to learn is just unthinkable.
    Problem is, not all users are as genius as you are when it comes to doing this kind of stuff. I know it doesn't take a genius to do that. But consider all the frustrations users have to undergo before eventually figuring that out. It all boils down to the most important concept when it comes to computers.... "user-friendly".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't get what's so difficult about removing the apps, disabling access to the Windows Store, pinning Desktop items to Start and making a custom image with that? To say THAT is difficult to learn is just unthinkable.
    That strategy only works as long as developers of "serious" software (stuff you need to use at work) keep writing their software as Desktop and not Metro.

    But surely Microsoft doesn't want that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't get what's so difficult about removing the apps, disabling access to the Windows Store, pinning Desktop items to Start and making a custom image with that? To say THAT is difficult to learn is just unthinkable.
    Problem is, not all users are as genius as you are when it comes to doing this kind of stuff. I know it doesn't take a genius to do that. But consider all the frustrations users have to undergo before eventually figuring that out. It all boils down to the most important concept when it comes to computers.... "user-friendly".

    Hi there
    Agreed.

    For instance if you install a large application like Visual Studio 2012 (full version) or the CS6 Adobe suite where every .EXE file creates a tile which can be anywhere on the start screen how does the poor user know WHICH are the important ones and which are the "rubbish" tiles that can sensibly be deleted - not only that you won't necessarily KNOW if the tiles that appear are part of the application you are installing.

    It is DEFINITELY NOT A TRIVIAL TASK to sort out this dogs dinner of a mess and if coke robot thinks it is and is within the competence of "typical users" - and a typical user doesn't have to be an IT Guru to use Adobe CS6 for example - he must be sniffing too much of the white powdery stuff.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't get what's so difficult about removing the apps, disabling access to the Windows Store, pinning Desktop items to Start and making a custom image with that? To say THAT is difficult to learn is just unthinkable.
    Problem is, not all users are as genius as you are when it comes to doing this kind of stuff. I know it doesn't take a genius to do that. But consider all the frustrations users have to undergo before eventually figuring that out. It all boils down to the most important concept when it comes to computers.... "user-friendly".

    Hi there
    Agreed.

    For instance if you install a large application like Visual Studio 2012 (full version) or the CS6 Adobe suite where every .EXE file creates a tile which can be anywhere on the start screen how does the poor user know WHICH are the important ones and which are the "rubbish" tiles that can sensibly be deleted - not only that you won't necessarily KNOW if the tiles that appear are part of the application you are installing.

    It is DEFINITELY NOT A TRIVIAL TASK to sort out this dogs dinner of a mess and if coke robot thinks it is and is within the competence of "typical users" - and a typical user doesn't have to be an IT Guru to use Adobe CS6 for example - he must be sniffing too much of the white powdery stuff.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    double ditto on that.

    In a big corporation the IT guy is going to tweak all of that for the user and just make a custom deployment image. Even then though you're likely to end up with a different images for different departments etc. It's still going to be a major headache for some poor sole. And even then there will still be training for the end user on what's what and how to use the hot corners etc. If you don't all your PC's will be on 24/7 as no one will be able to figure out how to turn them off from Windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't get what's so difficult about removing the apps, disabling access to the Windows Store, pinning Desktop items to Start and making a custom image with that? To say THAT is difficult to learn is just unthinkable.
    Problem is, not all users are as genius as you are when it comes to doing this kind of stuff. I know it doesn't take a genius to do that. But consider all the frustrations users have to undergo before eventually figuring that out. It all boils down to the most important concept when it comes to computers.... "user-friendly".
    I would hope at least system admins are genius enough to figure that one out...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't get what's so difficult about removing the apps, disabling access to the Windows Store, pinning Desktop items to Start and making a custom image with that? To say THAT is difficult to learn is just unthinkable.
    Problem is, not all users are as genius as you are when it comes to doing this kind of stuff. I know it doesn't take a genius to do that. But consider all the frustrations users have to undergo before eventually figuring that out. It all boils down to the most important concept when it comes to computers.... "user-friendly".
    I would hope at least system admins are genius enough to figure that one out...
    You just don't get it coke. Think outside the box.
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