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Microsoft: That Windows 8 “New Coke” Analogy Is Silly

  1. #71


    Posts : 138
    Windows 8 Pro


    I just think there's no justification to some of these complaints at all.

    So what if you need to use a 3rd party program? If its a legit, reputable program what's the big deal? I've used 3rd party programs for what I consider to be important stuff for years. There's no problem here. Here's a list of 3rd party programs you probably shouldn't use because of your objections:

    Adobe Reader
    Adobe Photoshop
    Mozilla Firefox
    Google Chrome
    Open Office
    ITunes
    Steam
    VLC

    That's just off the top of my head. Those are bad. Their 3rd party programs.

    This is a totally manufactured issue. Even if Microsoft 'fixed' all of your personal issues, you'd just find something new to carp about.

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  2. #72


    Posts : 1,770
    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    I can understand if you don't wish to understand, but if you actually don't understand people's criticisms of Windows 8, then that is truly sad.
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  3. #73


    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    I just think there's no justification to some of these complaints at all.

    So what if you need to use a 3rd party program? If its a legit, reputable program what's the big deal? I've used 3rd party programs for what I consider to be important stuff for years. There's no problem here. Here's a list of 3rd party programs you probably shouldn't use because of your objections:

    Adobe Reader
    Adobe Photoshop
    Mozilla Firefox
    Google Chrome
    Open Office
    ITunes
    Steam
    VLC

    That's just off the top of my head. Those are bad. Their 3rd party programs.

    This is a totally manufactured issue. Even if Microsoft 'fixed' all of your personal issues, you'd just find something new to carp about.
    it's the fact that you have to use third parties to do basic Windows tasks that have been in Windows for years and years and years. Nobody is against third party, but I don't want to have to get a third party calculator, or third party control panel.
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  4. #74


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    I just think there's no justification to some of these complaints at all.

    So what if you need to use a 3rd party program? If its a legit, reputable program what's the big deal? I've used 3rd party programs for what I consider to be important stuff for years. There's no problem here. Here's a list of 3rd party programs you probably shouldn't use because of your objections:

    Adobe Reader
    Adobe Photoshop
    Mozilla Firefox
    Google Chrome
    Open Office
    ITunes
    Steam
    VLC

    That's just off the top of my head. Those are bad. Their 3rd party programs.

    This is a totally manufactured issue. Even if Microsoft 'fixed' all of your personal issues, you'd just find something new to carp about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I can understand if you don't wish to understand, but if you actually don't understand people's criticisms of Windows 8, then that is truly sad.
    Why? Because we don't agree with all the criticisms.

    And I agree, some of the criticisms are nonsensical - like the criticism about using 3rd party apps - something that's been happening since the early days of Windows.

    No one is saying 8 is perfect, but it isn't the boogey man a lot of people are making it out to be either.
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  5. #75


    Posts : 1,770
    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Another one who doesn't understand. Since when has it been required to download a third party program to have a start button and be able to start in the desktop?
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  6. #76


    Posts : 959
    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    Here's a list of 3rd party programs you probably shouldn't use because of your objections:

    Adobe Reader
    Adobe Photoshop
    Mozilla Firefox
    Google Chrome
    Open Office
    ITunes
    Steam
    VLC
    Corporate IT folk don't like third party unless it's from a known supplier with many years' reputation or they can't avoid it.

    The only one of those which I'm allowed to use on my work PC is Adobe Reader.

    But if I can't use Outlook with (Metro) Reader because I can't see them both at the same time, it's not the fault of either application, it's the fault of the operating system.

    It's the function of the operating system, not third party software, to allow me to use multiple software apps at the same time. To make a reliable product that supports multiple apps at once is a huge job and much more complex than making a stand-alone app that only has to interact with the OS.

    We also use bespoke software and it's quite common to need to view that software and a PDF file (say) at the same time.

    If we were reliant on ModernMix (or whatever) to make that process usable, and suddenly it broke because of a Microsoft update, it would be our corporate IT support who'd have to field all the unhappy calls. So our corporate IT folk wouldn't want to take such a risk on a small company that can't have tested its product to the same level that Microsoft can.

    And actually I don't think Microsoft would want to be in that position either - if the only way corporate folk will buy Windows 8 is by getting a 3rd party app that Microsoft don't have control over, Microsoft would be taking a big risk.
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  7. #77


    I am in corporate IT and we use a ton of third party stuff. But I am in a smaller shop and have more control. Half of my stuff comes from ninite.com in my images.
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  8. #78


    Madrid, Spain
    Posts : 228
    Windows 8.1 x64


    There is a huge difference between the New Coke and Windows 8.

    The New Coke was withdrawn or drunk in a very short time and disappeared completely, but Microsoft cannot make Windows 8 disappear nor solve the fiasco it means for the whole structure of the product, the connected products and the whole company at the end.

    Windows 8, as expected and predicted by all of us, is the mother of all marketing fiascos.
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  9. #79


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Another one who doesn't understand. Since when has it been required to download a third party program to have a start button and be able to start in the desktop?
    THIS is the point - We shouldn't HAVE to - It should BE there, Start 8 is a LONG way from Photoshop.
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  10. #80


    New Zealand
    Posts : 91
    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1


    Microsoft: That Windows 8 “New Coke” Analogy Is Silly


    I actually think that it is pretty accurate. But when it comes to Windows Blue from the leaked builds that we have seen, I think the Titanic Analogy is best (probably been posted before). Windows 8 is sinking and instead of fixing it or getting us onto lifeboats they are busy rearranging the deckchairs.
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