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No iTunes for Windows 8 devices anytime soon

  1. #21


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Microsoft kind of slapped themselves with the Zune player....
    Agreed. I have a Windows Phone so I have to use Zune.

    On the face of it there are cool features like the ability to synch to my phone wirelessly... but (unless they've fixed it) it doesn't work in Windows 8 and reading around the web forums, no-one else could get it to work either.

    Why Microsoft can't update their own Zune player to work with Microsoft Windows 8 is beyond me.

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  2. #22


    Arnhem, The Netherlands
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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Media Center Edition


    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma View Post
    Unfortunately you need iTunes to manage an iPod for example.
    Well, I'll just be thankful that iTunes isnt needed to manage my music/videos/podcasts/Internet radio on my Samsung Galaxy Note 2. lol.

    Good for you . The only problem is that there is no alternative available for me .

    My demands for a musicplayer are that it can play lossless audioformats, can contain more than 130 GB data and it must have a battery that can play up to 50 hours without charging. They only product that complies to these requirements is the iPod Classic.
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  3. #23


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    Windows 8 Pro


    ITunes is a horrible piece of software. To me its always been example number one of why Apple sucks so much. My Android phone doesn't need a proprietary program to sync my music. Fail for crApple. Epic fail actually. But the sycophants will give that company a pass no matter what it does or screws up.

    The 'legacy' version works fine, so who cares?
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  4. #24


    Portland, Oregon, USA
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    Windows 8.1 Pro x64, Windows Server 2012 R2 x64


    Apple/iTurd products are for mindless drones who are willing to accept things as they are, with no intent to change anything, and to just use the device as it was designed. With the exception of people who jailbreak their devices. And even a jailbroken device cant compare to the power and capabilities of an Android device with similar specs.

    And Apple likes to use proprietary media formats that generally only work well on their devices/hardware. If I have a library with Apple then I have to convert my media files to an openly accepted/popular format like MP3, etc. I would rather just buy my media in MP3/etc formats in the first place.

    They also think they're better than everyone else. Well, that's just not me. It just so happens that I consider myself a hacker of sorts (in the positive sense, not the ones we hear about everyday on the news that break laws), I like to tinker and figure out how things work and find innovative solutions to my problems. Which is my I've rooted my phone, unlocked the bootloader, and installed a custom ROM, etc. I also dualboot Linux and Windows 8/Windows Server 2012.

    At its' core the OSes on Apple devices are really just Unix/Linux-based with some modifications and a prettied-up interface, designed to work on on the hardware that Apple provides. My dad also claims that Macs dont get viruses. He says it's impossible. Anyone with a background in computer security/programming/etc knows that's not true. To believe otherwise is ignorant. While it may be superior to most other OSes in terms of being malware-resistant, infections can and do happen. Linux rarely gets infected with malware either, and is a much better alternative that works on multiple hardware configurations.

    Just my 2 cents..........
    Last edited by Enigma; 12 May 2013 at 06:18.
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  5. #25


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    ^ Truth
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  6. #26


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    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    ITunes is a horrible piece of software. To me its always been example number one of why Apple sucks so much. My Android phone doesn't need a proprietary program to sync my music. Fail for crApple. Epic fail actually. But the sycophants will give that company a pass no matter what it does or screws up.
    Meanwhile my Windows Phone requires me to use proprietary software (Zune) and Microsoft can't even be bothered to keep it updated, even on their own OS. At least Apple issue updates for iTunes in Windows, and I'd far rather use iTunes than Zune.

    So while I accept what you say about Android being best in this respect, Microsoft are way worse than Apple here.
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  7. #27


    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma View Post
    At its' core the OSes on Apple devices are really just Unix/Linux-based with some modifications and a prettied-up interface, designed to work on on the hardware that Apple provides.
    Exactly. Where I come from that is a pretty rock solid, stable foundation. Since you like to tinker, have you ever opened up a terminal session on a Mac? The whole world of Unix is at your fingertips, a tinkerers paradise.

    -jeff
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  8. #28


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    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    ITunes is a horrible piece of software. To me its always been example number one of why Apple sucks so much. My Android phone doesn't need a proprietary program to sync my music. Fail for crApple. Epic fail actually. But the sycophants will give that company a pass no matter what it does or screws up.
    Meanwhile my Windows Phone requires me to use proprietary software (Zune) and Microsoft can't even be bothered to keep it updated, even on their own OS. At least Apple issue updates for iTunes in Windows, and I'd far rather use iTunes than Zune.

    So while I accept what you say about Android being best in this respect, Microsoft are way worse than Apple here.
    What phone is it? What version of Windows Phone? I'm pretty light on knowledge on Windows Phone.
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  9. #29


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    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    What phone is it? What version of Windows Phone? I'm pretty light on knowledge on Windows Phone.
    Nokia Lumia 610, running Windows Phone 7.5.
    I believe I could upgrade it to 7.8 if I could face going into Zune.
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  10. #30


    Portland, Oregon, USA
    Posts : 182
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64, Windows Server 2012 R2 x64


    @Jf1450: I'm well aware that opening a terminal session on a Mac will let you access many Unix utils. As I said, it's just Unix at the core with mods and a pretty interface. Beneath that fancy exterior it's still Unix, complete with a kernel, etc.

    But honestly, I'm not willing to give Apple the time of day, I refuse to use their products, with the exception of iTunes, and grudgingly at that. Why? Well, for one thing, I dislike their business philosophy and the general superiority attitude of many if not most of their fans. They have decent hardware, sometimes great, that's not my issue.

    Apple wants to keep you tied in to THEIR software, on THEIR hardware, using THEIR services..........and ONLY with them, whenever possible. That's my issue with them. I say to anyone, to each his own and use whatever works for you, and if Apple products are someone's thing, then so be it, no need in wasting time trying to change/convert them, because it's unlikely to happen.

    Microsoft is also guilty of doing many of the same things that Apple does, but I still use Windows because it's the obvious OS of choice for gamers like myself and most of the software I use runs on it. I'm willing to accept its' shortcomings regardless.
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