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Microsoft Talks About "Blue" and Windows Future

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    Microsoft Talks About "Blue" and Windows Future


    Microsoft's Julie Larson-Green made a rare public appearance this week to discuss Windows 8.1 "Blue" and her team's attempts to win over disgruntled Windows users. Here's a selection of the pertinent information from her Q&A with WIRED.
    http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/ju...future-windows

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    The way I read this there will be a START button leading to the START SCREEN.

    Start button, Part Deux. WIRED later brings up the topic again and leads JLG with “is there meaningful discussion” about bringing it back? “There have been discussions … meaningful discussion. But we believe fully in the Start screen and the model of having these live tiles. The [old] Start menu was never really built for multiple applications … the Start screen offers dramatic improvement. Windows today is so much more than launching applications … the [old] Start menu is not the be-all, end-all. [But] the button might be helpful to have on the screen. We’re principled in the direction we’re heading, but we’re not going to be stubborn … It’s not to spite you.” [Laughs]
    They are being spiteful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    The way I read this there will be a START button leading to the START SCREEN.

    Start button, Part Deux. WIRED later brings up the topic again and leads JLG with “is there meaningful discussion” about bringing it back? “There have been discussions … meaningful discussion. But we believe fully in the Start screen and the model of having these live tiles. The [old] Start menu was never really built for multiple applications … the Start screen offers dramatic improvement. Windows today is so much more than launching applications … the [old] Start menu is not the be-all, end-all. [But] the button might be helpful to have on the screen. We’re principled in the direction we’re heading, but we’re not going to be stubborn … It’s not to spite you.” [Laughs]
    They are being spiteful.
    How did the phrase Start button somehow translate to start menu to begin with?

    It seems more like graphing onto whatever there is grasp onto...
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    Cokie.

    It is because the start menu is what the users are asking for most.

    Naturally when listening to users and start button were mentioned, it was taken to mean button and menu.

    Start button is completely and utterly pointless if it brings up the much hated full size screen.

    Worse, it is an ambush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Cokie.

    It is because the start menu is what the users are asking for most.

    Naturally when start button was mentioned, it was assumed they meant menu.

    Start button is completely and utterly pointless if it brings up the much hated screen.

    Worse, it is an ambush.
    A UI link and a piece of UI are two different things.

    A facebook app is also what users ask for the most.
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    Miss Julie
    I don’t think there’s anything I haven’t heard, before we shipped, since we shipped
    So why didn't you respond to what you heard before - rather than now?

    Miss Julie
    We’re principled in the direction we’re heading, but we’re not going to be stubborn … It’s not to spite you.
    No, it isn't deliberately to spite users. It is to push MS agenda. If that is bad for the users - hard luck they will have to put up with it.
    Last edited by SIW2; 09 May 2013 at 21:44.
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    Cokie,

    It is not practical to write a giant tome so that you won't deliberately misconstrue each post.

    It is perfectly obvious the main issue is the removal of the start menu.

    If that is not obvious to you - I can't help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Cokie,

    It is not practical to write a giant tome so that you won't deliberately misconstrue each post.

    It is perfectly obvious the main issue is the removal of the start menu.

    If that is not obvious to you - I can't help you.
    Huh? What giant tome?

    And no, that is the actual wants of the consumer with Windows 8, a start menu and a facebook app. If you want to deny that, go ahead. I can't stop you from denying fact.
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    Oh, I hope they don't bring back the start menu, and boot directly to desktop etc. Back to back disasters may be the only thing to shake things up at ms central. Fire the lot of them and bring in folks with a clue.
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    Is there actually any tangible proof that millions of users a clamouring for a Start Button? I've never encountered a real person who said 'I won't buy Windows 8 because the a-holes took away that Start Button', however, I've encountered plenty who had no idea it was gone and also a few who didn't even know what the Start Button was. I think this is so overblown.

    I'm reminded of the meltdown that happened amongst star wars nerds over the Star Wars special editions, when Lucas altered the classic films. Its so funny, people get twisted in knots about it even today. "Han shot Greedo first!" they say. The funny things is the overwhelming majority of the human race don't care. They don't even know who Greedo is. This is like that. This is manufactured issue that only 'computer people' actually care about.

    Its an excuse for Apple and Linux lovers to find a reason to say "Look how terrible Microsoft is".

    The funniest thing is its so easy for the user to put back if they want it there. There's really no issue here.

    PC sales aren't poor because of Windows 8. They weren't great before it either. Has it ever occurred to people that it probably has more to do with the rise of tablets than anything to do with the PC itself? Just think about it, how many millions of casual users simply bought a PC for web browsing, email and playing Facebook games? That number was very high. Tablets are a better tool for that use case. My wife is the perfect example. She always had a computer, but ever since she got her IPad she NEVER uses it at all. Why? She doesn't need it for anything she does. My mother-in-law is the same way. There are millions of former PC users out there who now use tablet, mainly IPad as their 'PC' they don't need a computer, and never really liked them in the first place. My wife has often spoken of her relief at no longer needing one. Why? She didn't have a very good knowledge of her computer in the first place, it was all confusing. Outside of the Firefox and Word icons she basically didn't click anything else. You would be amazed how many people there are out there like that. They have abandoned PCs because they don't need them, and their tablet is simpler and easier and more fun to use.

    Nobody outside of tech circles cares about the Start Button.
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