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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Cokie.

    It is because the start menu is what the users are asking for most.

    Naturally when start button was mentioned, it was assumed they meant menu.

    Start button is completely and utterly pointless if it brings up the much hated screen.

    Worse, it is an ambush.
    A UI link and a piece of UI are two different things.

    A facebook app is also what users ask for the most.
    Hi there
    Where on Earth did you get that piece of rubbish from -- Most people I know absolutely HATE "Farcebook" and want nothing to do with it. In any case that type of application is hardly relevant to the discussion in question - is it. FB works if you must use it on mobile devices without any problem - and probably is one of the few apps that might be BETTER started from a Metro type screen.

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    I can't resist posting this again - for those who haven't seen it :

    Facebook Unveils New Waste of Time : The New Yorker
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    The arrogance at MS is truly stunning, and regrettably deserving of a complete and total failure of the company.

    I have met many people that all have asked that the option of default boot to desktop be included in Windows 8, they all say that when using the OS on the typical desktop or laptop the Metro UI is frustrating and annoying, none want to play around with touch on their pc.

    I'm glad the media picked up on my comparison between Windows 8 and New Coke. I have the strongest belief that if the Coca Cola Company had REFUSED to listen to the desires of the customers they would have ended up out of business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    The arrogance at MS is truly stunning, and regrettably deserving of a complete and total failure of the company.

    I have met many people that all have asked that the option of default boot to desktop be included in Windows 8, they all say that when using the OS on the typical desktop or laptop the Metro UI is frustrating and annoying, none want to play around with touch on their pc.

    I'm glad the media picked up on my comparison between Windows 8 and New Coke. I have the strongest belief that if the Coca Cola Company had REFUSED to listen to the desires of the customers they would have ended up out of business.
    Start 8
    Pokki
    Classic Shell
    many others...

    It takes 5 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    The arrogance at MS is truly stunning, and regrettably deserving of a complete and total failure of the company.

    I have met many people that all have asked that the option of default boot to desktop be included in Windows 8, they all say that when using the OS on the typical desktop or laptop the Metro UI is frustrating and annoying, none want to play around with touch on their pc.

    I'm glad the media picked up on my comparison between Windows 8 and New Coke. I have the strongest belief that if the Coca Cola Company had REFUSED to listen to the desires of the customers they would have ended up out of business.
    Start 8
    Pokki
    Classic Shell
    many others...

    It takes 5 minutes.
    I guess that The Coca Cola Company should have included instructions on how to recreate the original formula with the New Coke product bought by the consumer?



    Point is that you shouldn't have to add a external program to get such a basic function on Windows 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    The arrogance at MS is truly stunning, and regrettably deserving of a complete and total failure of the company.

    I have met many people that all have asked that the option of default boot to desktop be included in Windows 8, they all say that when using the OS on the typical desktop or laptop the Metro UI is frustrating and annoying, none want to play around with touch on their pc.

    I'm glad the media picked up on my comparison between Windows 8 and New Coke. I have the strongest belief that if the Coca Cola Company had REFUSED to listen to the desires of the customers they would have ended up out of business.
    Start 8
    Pokki
    Classic Shell
    many others...

    It takes 5 minutes.
    I guess that The Coca Cola Company should have included instructions on how to recreate the original formula with the New Coke product bought by the consumer?



    Point is that you shouldn't have to add a external program to get such a basic function on Windows 8.
    It takes five minutes to pin/unpin things to the Start Screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post

    Start 8
    Pokki
    Classic Shell
    many others...

    It takes 5 minutes.
    I guess that The Coca Cola Company should have included instructions on how to recreate the original formula with the New Coke product bought by the consumer?



    Point is that you shouldn't have to add a external program to get such a basic function on Windows 8.
    It takes five minutes to pin/unpin things to the Start Screen.

    All I know is when the dust settles (with lots of unsold Windows 8 OSs) I will be happy to say one more time...."I told you so".
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    Middle Digit Gesture


    March Julie Larson-Green into the salt mines (along with Tami Reller).

    Posted previously; "If MS keep giving the "middle digit gesture" to users, they'll keep receiving it back from those users."
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    Is there actually any tangible proof that millions of users a clamouring for a Start Button? I've never encountered a real person who said 'I won't buy Windows 8 because the a-holes took away that Start Button', however, I've encountered plenty who had no idea it was gone and also a few who didn't even know what the Start Button was. I think this is so overblown.

    I'm reminded of the meltdown that happened amongst star wars nerds over the Star Wars special editions, when Lucas altered the classic films. Its so funny, people get twisted in knots about it even today. "Han shot Greedo first!" they say. The funny things is the overwhelming majority of the human race don't care. They don't even know who Greedo is. This is like that. This is manufactured issue that only 'computer people' actually care about.

    Its an excuse for Apple and Linux lovers to find a reason to say "Look how terrible Microsoft is".

    The funniest thing is its so easy for the user to put back if they want it there. There's really no issue here.

    PC sales aren't poor because of Windows 8. They weren't great before it either. Has it ever occurred to people that it probably has more to do with the rise of tablets than anything to do with the PC itself? Just think about it, how many millions of casual users simply bought a PC for web browsing, email and playing Facebook games? That number was very high. Tablets are a better tool for that use case. My wife is the perfect example. She always had a computer, but ever since she got her IPad she NEVER uses it at all. Why? She doesn't need it for anything she does. My mother-in-law is the same way. There are millions of former PC users out there who now use tablet, mainly IPad as their 'PC' they don't need a computer, and never really liked them in the first place. My wife has often spoken of her relief at no longer needing one. Why? She didn't have a very good knowledge of her computer in the first place, it was all confusing. Outside of the Firefox and Word icons she basically didn't click anything else. You would be amazed how many people there are out there like that. They have abandoned PCs because they don't need them, and their tablet is simpler and easier and more fun to use.

    Nobody outside of tech circles cares about the Start Button.
    Literally.
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  10. #20


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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    I guess that The Coca Cola Company should have included instructions on how to recreate the original formula with the New Coke product bought by the consumer?



    Point is that you shouldn't have to add a external program to get such a basic function on Windows 8.
    It takes five minutes to pin/unpin things to the Start Screen.

    All I know is when the dust settles (with lots of unsold Windows 8 OSs) I will be happy to say one more time...."I told you so".
    And all I know is that when the time comes when people have moved on from the Desktop UI, the mouse, and on to newer and better technologies BECAUSE Windows 8 spawned those ideas, I will be more than glad to show you a useful two finger gesture I hold near and dear to express the thoughts that come to my mind.
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