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XP - One Year To Go

  1. #21


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    The main reason XP had such a long life was because of its corporate penetration. When Microsoft announced that it was dropping support for XP a few years ago, it caused a mighty backlash from the corporate world, so Microsoft gave XP a life extension to allow time for corporations to transition to Windows 7. Consumer concerns didn't enter into this decision.

    Actually I was thinking more about the enterprise "consumer" but still MS could have just said
    "finito" years ago and enterprise would have had to upgrade to Vista or 7.

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  2. #22


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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    Actually I was thinking more about the enterprise "consumer" but still MS could have just said
    "finito" years ago and enterprise would have had to upgrade to Vista or 7.
    That's not so easy to do. XP has been so deeply embedded into enterprises, with associated programs hanging off it, that it simply could not be switched off. The testing etc and often rebuilding of other systems can be a massive task taking years to do before the final version can be rolled out. Some legacy systems may still have to run on XP, even if other systems have transitioned to Windows 7.
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  3. #23


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    So if I try to install XP again on one of my notebooks after 8 Apr 2014, it won't install?

    On another note, why does the US use month/day/year instead of day/month/year?
    If I say May 11, 2013 I write it as 5/1/2013
    If I say 11 May 2013 I write it as 11/5/2013 unless directed otherwise.

    The only reason I can think of for d/m/y is for accounting. Primarily collections.

    What's your take on it Ray9?
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  4. #24


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    It seems that the US is the only country that uses the month/day/year format, everyone else uses either day/month/year or year/month/day. I can see the logic in the latter two, but none in the former.
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  5. #25


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    It seems that the US is the only country that uses the month/day/year format, everyone else uses either day/month/year or year/month/day. I can see the logic in the latter two, but none in the former.
    No intended disrespect to our friends from the US but it is not just the date. Found this somewhere on the Web.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails metric v imp.jpg  
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  6. #26


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    Quote Originally Posted by McRuff View Post
    No intended disrespect to our friends from the US but it is not just the date. Found this somewhere on the Web.
    In the UK we still have a strange mix of systems.

    If you're in the market for a new car, the economy will be almost certainly quoted in miles per gallon.

    But once you've bought your car, if you go to buy some diesel or petrol (gasoline) for it, it will be sold in litres, not gallons. This makes no sense!
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  7. #27


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    Hi there
    I suppose in the UK the mentality goes -- I've paid my Road Tax to use the WHOLE ROAD -- so why should I be restricted to using only HALF of it while driving - often seems like that when I'm unfortunate enough to have to use that country's vastly congested motorway system where every driver seems to think that they OWN the middle lane of a 3 lane highway whatever the state of traffic or however fast or slow they are driving.

    However - if they want to restart the economy over there really quickly just initiate a program of switching to driving on the same side of the road as almost the rest of the planet does -- think of the small businesses / engineering / sign writers etc etc who would be employed for YEARS in preparing for the changeover -- I'll bet they'd switch to having the HIGHEST growth rate in the WORLD for YEARS and the lowest unemployment too. Cheaper than paying Billions to despicable Banks who are still re-possessing people's homes at an alarming rate and then flogging them off CHEAP to their buddies.

    As far as the US is concerned there is often a "Not invented here-- so I don't want to use" mentality -- remember things like Incompatible Mobile phone systems, etc and particularly the NTSC TV system --I still remember those men with Green / purplish faces etc on the screens -- the system was popularly known as Never The Same Colour !!.

    However attitudes are gradually changing although traces of their mentality still exist -- such as UTC instead of GMT and in a lot of Movies where "History" is often re-written for domestic cinema audience consumption.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #28


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    The main reason XP had such a long life was because of its corporate penetration. When Microsoft announced that it was dropping support for XP a few years ago, it caused a mighty backlash from the corporate world, so Microsoft gave XP a life extension to allow time for corporations to transition to Windows 7. Consumer concerns didn't enter into this decision.
    It's a level deeper than that though, it's on the Blu Collar level as well. The next time you go get your wheels aligned or your smog done - Check out the computers - They be Windows 95, 98, 2000 and XP. You will NOT see Vista, 7 or 8. Most Smog machines are windows 95! They have to be a certain way because the the requirements for the state, Vista and 7 would make such systems hard pressed to fulfill the requirements for Data and Hardware.
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  9. #29


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    As to the date format, it was the standard in England when this continent was being colonized
    That's news to me. Learn something everyday.
    It is what it is - the US has a lot of weirdness that tracks back to colonization and the revolution. My favorite are my brit colleagues who make light of the way we deal with these sorts of things, completely ignorant of the fact we do these things precisely because we were an English colony, and for a goodly amount of time at that. In fact, it's been argued in the past that some of our more major regional language accents used here in the US have some basis in the language and accents used during the time of colonization and where people emigrated here from - it may even have an impact on the accents of the English language in places in Canadian regions too (David Hackett Fischer wrote a very interesting and large book on the subject). Mixed with the German and Dutch emigres at that time, you get what people might call "American English" and it's accents. It's a theory that's sort of impossible to prove, but it does seem quite reasonable. From what dialecticians have said, the vast majority of accent differences exist on the eastern half of the US, and specifically along the eastern coast and great lakes regions - those regions originally inhabited and colonized by immigrants to the US during our infancy as a colony and later, as a country. Again, it's something that would be incredibly difficult to prove factually (as it happened centuries ago, and records and documentation during those times would be inaccurate at best due to the reasons people emigrated in the first place. However, if true it would be yet another interesting vestige of colonial times, I suppose, in the Americas.
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  10. #30


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Looking at the diagram Metric seems to make a lot of sense. So, what happened back in the 70's when the US was suppose to start moving everything over to it? Corporations and republicans HOWLED and prevented it. Because Jesus doesn't approve I guess.
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