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Windows 8's learning curve to be addressed

  1. #31


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    OK, these are some of the screenshots of the Touch Mouse tutorial. Note, these aren't ALL the bits of it, as I took screenshots of the relevant parts.

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  2. #32


    unsure why I find gestures to be so overrated. I have no interest in them.
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  3. #33


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    What do they MEAN, Learning Curve?

    That's you. We're enthusiasts who like to tinker. For the non-enthusiast, it's totally different.

    So yes, there is a learning curve, especially when you consider the masses who are just learning Win 7, now along comes a completely new UI. Totally different from previous versions of Windows, especially now that the Start Button is gone.

    Anyway no one is saying it's rocket science, but it's still a learning curve.

    Anyway I find the "issue" a bit amusing - On one hand Microsoft made it seem like the OS was easy to use, now there's a "learning curve"

    Anyway I do agree there's a learning curve; slight as it may be.
    Allrightlythen: So the point is, Microsoft was toting this thing originally, as being Super-Easy to run. In other words, it hasn't quite worked out the way MS said it would, haha.

    But I'm as enthusiast as anyone, I do heavy manipulation on a daily basis. And my manipulations and tweekings say that most of the important stuff is exactly where it was in 7, even Vistshi'ite and XP.

    Ive even gotten my hands dirty by lookin into the bloody foogin guts of the Metro interface. But as Metro is far from important to me, most of those investigations have to do with removing it completely
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  4. #34


    Somewhere in USA
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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Add me to the list that like it and isn't whining that I can't figure it out with a learning curve issue.

    I have and like 8 on the desktop and Surface.
    I like that on desktop I don't have a dumb taskbar always there. It's set to be hidden.
    I like that I don't have a stupid start button on the taskbar to get me to my start menu of most used apps. I like that hidden too. It's just a wee bit to the left of where it use to be. That's right in the left corner with a single click like the old start button.

    How complex?!

    Seems like MS really needs to dumb it down!
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  5. #35


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    A lot of this is going a bit OT with 5 button mice tutorials etc etc.

    The SIMPLE FACT and it's so OBVIOUS that even the most idiotic marketing person on the planet should have realized is that you have two sets of basically different (and largely) incompatible users -- mobile (Tablets / phones etc) for which the metro type interface is probably just fine and Desktop users who run windows Classic applications and need a proper DESKTOP type of OS.

    There is nothing wrong in Ms designing a SINGLE OS which serves both sets of users - but it should then run in modes suitable for BOTH sets of users -- I don't even think it should be an EITHER OR type of process - but perhaps a boot option which could be set to default and then changeable if the user wanted to switch modes at the next boot.

    Perhaps also there should be a way of selecting and running Metro apps from the Desktop for those users who want to run a metro app from time to time from the desktop without having to re-boot the OS.

    Surely before any product is let "Out of the door" rigorous testing should be done -- and with "Normal, non power and non I.T dept. users" too -- or has with the advent of hugely off shored I.T operations -- this type of proper testing become too expensive to do and is just abandoned for "Cost efficiency". So the whole Learning Curve issue should have been discovered LONG before NOW. !!!!!

    I'm always hearing from my I.T support colleagues that a lot of off shored code often has to be almost totally re-written before it's put into production rendering the whole idea of these remote operations totally Bonkers in the first place.

    Maybe Ms should bring this stuff back to places like the USA where on the whole stuff is properly designed and tested before it's released. I shudder to think what the old Apollo Moon project would have been like had it been designed on today's mode of operations rather than on good sound robust old fashioned Engineering principles - and remember most of the people who worked on those incredible projects were under 25 too -- so it's also nothing to do with "imbecilic youth" either.

    So Ms BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD and do it properly this time.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #36


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    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Had an executive who didn't have a pdf reader installed and was using the built in reader. After about 30 minutes of trying to figure
    out how to print, he came to me. I showed him devices in the charms bar. He was a bit shocked that this basic function was so unintuitive.
    Lol! This is an executive? The first thing I suggest you teach him is where the help files are. It amuses me that he spent 30 minutes trying to figure it out, then came to you wasting your time when all he had to do was look in the help files.
    OK then - how do you get to the Help files from Reader?!

    (Incidentally I see that the Print option has now appeared in Reader on a Right-click - I'm pretty sure it wasn't there before and MS have added it during an Update.)
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  7. #37


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Had an executive who didn't have a pdf reader installed and was using the built in reader. After about 30 minutes of trying to figure
    out how to print, he came to me. I showed him devices in the charms bar. He was a bit shocked that this basic function was so unintuitive.
    Lol! This is an executive? The first thing I suggest you teach him is where the help files are. It amuses me that he spent 30 minutes trying to figure it out, then came to you wasting your time when all he had to do was look in the help files.
    OK then - how do you get to the Help files from Reader?!

    (Incidentally I see that the Print option has now appeared in Reader on a Right-click - I'm pretty sure it wasn't there before and MS have added it during an Update.)
    Hi there
    just because a guy is an executive of an organisation doesn't mean to say he / she has to have any knowledge of computers other than basic tools such as I'd assume - on how to create and interpret a spread sheet or read a power point type of demonstration.

    (Of course if the guy was say a senior executive at Ms then I would be surprised if he couldn't use Windows properly --even Windows 8).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #38


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    There are so many Microsoft executives leaving of late, they probably all failed the basic Windows 8 user test.
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  9. #39


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    Windows 8.1, 10


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post

    Lol! This is an executive? The first thing I suggest you teach him is where the help files are. It amuses me that he spent 30 minutes trying to figure it out, then came to you wasting your time when all he had to do was look in the help files.
    OK then - how do you get to the Help files from Reader?!

    (Incidentally I see that the Print option has now appeared in Reader on a Right-click - I'm pretty sure it wasn't there before and MS have added it during an Update.)
    Hi there
    just because a guy is an executive of an organisation doesn't mean to say he / she has to have any knowledge of computers other than basic tools such as I'd assume - on how to create and interpret a spread sheet or read a power point type of demonstration.

    (Of course if the guy was say a senior executive at Ms then I would be surprised if he couldn't use Windows properly --even Windows 8).

    Cheers
    jimbo
    No argument from me on any of that.

    Sadly I'm neither a senior executive, nor am I clever enough to work out how to get to the Help files from within Reader... does anyone know? Is it even possible?
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  10. #40


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    unsure why I find gestures to be so overrated. I have no interest in them.
    Oh, I have a gesture specifically for metro. Wanna guess what it is.....????
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