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Windows 8's learning curve to be addressed

  1. #21


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    A very un-intuitive system may seem intuitive to some because of familiarity with something similar
    That is not what intuitive means.

    It means instinctive.

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  2. #22


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    1) It is hard to believe they released it like this. Unintuitive with low discoverability.Finding out where MS have bizarrely hidden things is an annoyance for many.

    2) Once they know where they everything is - now comes the biggest problem. They realise it is worse for use on a regular pc.

    3) I expect the most loathed feature is forcing the start screen.
    I'll go with two of these 3....

    1- Why in gods creation do I have to start here!

    2 - Where in f**k is that damn setting!!!

    Can't really say it's worse for use on regular PC, though some thing have changed, I just see it as different... once you find it. I will say the "Search" feature works really well... provided you know what you're looking for.

    Even though I'm starting to get used to 8, the two I list still annoys the heck out of me.
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  3. #23


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I'm running 8 on my laptop, IMHO intuitive it isn't. I haven't seen anything I would describe as awe inspiring either. I haven't resorted to any third party utilities in an attempt to make it look or work like 7. I have spent a great deal of time customizing things to try and make doing things more efficient. Change can be good as long as it isn't change just for the sake of change. It's not windows 7 and that's fine. I just wish they had made up their mind on what it was supposed to be? To me it seems half done. It frustrated the hell out of me when I had it on my desktop PC's. The touchpad on my laptop supports gestures which makes things tolerable on my laptop. I still have wtf were they thinking moments though. Anybody I have shown it too has given me that "don't want" look.
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  4. #24


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    win 7 home premium 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    I still have yet to speak with anyone in the circles I frequent, who actually likes it. Not a one, and I speak with IT people all across America and Canada.
    And I speak with people who are the target demographic of a consumer operating system, and very few actually don't like it. Everyone else is either indifferent to it or they like it better than 7.
    The target market must be fairly small, and MS refusing to pay attention to their huge primary market is a disgrace frankly.

    But yet again all this would be a NON-issue IF MS would not have been so arrogant as to not let the customer have a choice of which UI they wanted to use as the default, of course giving the customer the ability to change that choice if they wanted to at any time.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Cokie
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Since there isn't a lot familiar about it, there is hesitation and resistance


    No.

    It is not just because it is different.

    It is being rejected because it is worse.


    When it comes to productivity and ease of use on traditional laptops and PCs the excellent desktop UI is still far and away the BEST interface there is, period.
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  5. #25


    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
    Posts : 3,908
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    What do they MEAN, Learning Curve?

    According to Reller, Microsoft acknowledge that Windows 8's learning curve is an issue, saying that it's "real and needs to be addressed,"
    This wo-man thinks we are all as stoopid as she is?

    Sure I had to learn a couple of things, but for the most part, MOST of the stuff I tweek around with is... EXACTLY where it was in Windows 7.
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  6. #26


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    What do they MEAN, Learning Curve?

    According to Reller, Microsoft acknowledge that Windows 8's learning curve is an issue, saying that it's "real and needs to be addressed,"
    This wo-man thinks we are all as stoopid as she is?

    Sure I had to learn a couple of things, but for the most part, MOST of the stuff I tweek around with is... EXACTLY where it was in Windows 7.
    That's you. We're enthusiasts who like to tinker. For the non-enthusiast, it's totally different.

    So yes, there is a learning curve, especially when you consider the masses who are just learning Win 7, now along comes a completely new UI. Totally different from previous versions of Windows, especially now that the Start Button is gone.

    Anyway no one is saying it's rocket science, but it's still a learning curve.

    Anyway I find the "issue" a bit amusing - On one hand Microsoft made it seem like the OS was easy to use, now there's a "learning curve"

    Anyway I do agree there's a learning curve; slight as it may be.
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  7. #27


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Had an executive who didn't have a pdf reader installed and was using the built in reader. After about 30 minutes of trying to figure
    out how to print, he came to me. I showed him devices in the charms bar. He was a bit shocked that this basic function was so unintuitive.
    Lol! This is an executive? The first thing I suggest you teach him is where the help files are. It amuses me that he spent 30 minutes trying to figure it out, then came to you wasting your time when all he had to do was look in the help files.

    There's good reason why items have been moved. Charms bar is the new menu system allocated for touch, but works well with other input peripherals. "Devices" is another innovation of the Charms Bar menu.

    Use the charms

    Devices
    You'll mainly use the Devices charm (+K) to set up printers and print documents, but you can also use it to sync info with your phone and stream video to your wireless TV. Open the charms and then tap or click Devices to see all the devices youve connected to your PC at any time.
    Help files made easy even an exec can follow them.
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  8. #28


    USA, Idaho
    Posts : 1,062
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)


    HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! Funny thing this learning curve. . .who decided there is even a problem learning to use a computer. . .Oh, techies made that decision. Isn't the learning curve the same as who trained the trainer?
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  9. #29


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    What do they MEAN, Learning Curve?

    According to Reller, Microsoft acknowledge that Windows 8's learning curve is an issue, saying that it's "real and needs to be addressed,"
    This wo-man thinks we are all as stoopid as she is?

    Sure I had to learn a couple of things, but for the most part, MOST of the stuff I tweek around with is... EXACTLY where it was in Windows 7.
    You'd be surprised...
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  10. #30


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I'm going to take screenshots of the Microsoft Touch Mouse tutorial for Windows 8. The tutorial starts automatically once you update the drivers in Windows 8, and lo and behold, it shows you HOW to basically use Windows 8. It's something that Windows 8 should had shown FROM THE START.
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