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  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
    It doesn't say who wrote the article...
    That, is itself, a leading question!
    If you explore the site, you will find that the author is an east European, working for a large Linux organisation.

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  2. #12


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    Laid into


    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    If you explore the site, you will find that the author is an east European, working for a large Linux organisation.
    That doesn't invalidate his points.

    If you poke around that site, you'll see that he "laid into" the GNOME 3.6 developers too.
    Gnome 3.6 and why I am the king of everything
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  3. #13


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    It is funny how some will try and discredit those they don't agree with.

    Soviet Russia was big on that kind of thing, too.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    If you explore the site, you will find that the author is an east European, working for a large Linux organisation.
    That doesn't invalidate his points.

    There was no intention of doing so. I felt it was admirable that a staunch Linux supporter should be blogging a reasonable view of Windows 8. He is not openly criticising the Os, but pointing out it's (few) shortfalls. As a dual OS, which is how I see it, I remain with no complaints, regarding the othet half I choose to use - the legacy desktop, with a one touch graphical start menu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    If you explore the site, you will find that the author is an east European, working for a large Linux organisation.
    That doesn't invalidate his points.
    There was no intention of doing so. I felt it was admirable that a staunch Linux supporter should be blogging a reasonable view of Windows 8. He is not openly criticising the Os, but pointing out it's (few) shortfalls. As a dual OS, which is how I see it, I remain with no complaints, regarding the othet half I choose to use - the legacy desktop, with a one touch graphical start menu.
    My bad.
    The way you emphasised Linux "threw me".

    I think the main point of his article was that bloggers were "running wild".
    His article about Firefox was similar.
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  6. #16


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    I think you might have a few bits from the article, Dave, like these:

    ...there's one reason why a company like Microsoft would want to ...have you move to the subscription-based model like they supposedly plan with Windows Blue. Money.

    ....Now, this is going to fail... because Microsoft is ignoring the human needs and focusing on technology, which is the expected kneejerk reaction from a company pressed into a corner by its own arrogant decisions
    .
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  7. #17


    Hi.
    I can see that members may view my posts on the subject of Microsoft/Windows 8, as regarding me as a MS "fanboy".
    That is fair comment, but far from the truth. I have tackled MS, a little more directly, through their own TechNet and MVP pages. I don't pull punches, but have, in spite of that, always had fair and reasoned exchanges with them.

    I find the desktop alternative approach of Windows 8 very comfortable to use and, as said, have no outstanding critism of it, over and above what I have similarly faulted in previous OSs. It got a bad name, right from the start, because of the controversial new style, and its early release, as a preview, to the non tech public. That shadow has hung over it since.This could include the author of the thread subject, with respect to the gentleman, he does not appear to be totally familiar with Windows 8.. His main, and only, blue concern, seems to be with use of a finger as opposed to a keyboard. With this I heartily agree. I cannot see the vast typewriting public using a touchscreen to type letters for the boss! As an aside, who the heck ever dreamed up square icons for finger control!!!

    The vast majority of comments I read these days, on forums such as this, seem to be focused on the touchscreen/"Metro" implications. Very little of substance, is spoken regarding the desktop use. In fact, even on this site, I have read comments such as " why install Windows 8 and try and turn it into Windows 7". IMO, that is precisely how it was intended - not to turn it into Windows 7, but to make it more useable for those who prefer an "old tricks" desktop.
    As such, I find it an advance in performance and usability - not much, but enough. After all, at this stage, and with current known technology, there is little more that can be done to speed up and improve any OS. The much lauded Linux has not, again imo, moved forward very much at all over the years. My feeble attempts to run the various flavours over the years, have all turned out boring and frustrating.
    nevertheless, whatever the differences of opinion, I welcome and enjoy threads such as this. Opinions count a lot towards relations with clients, even outside of the internet.
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  8. #18


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    Windows Blue has nothing to do with the desktop. First and foremost, Windows Blue is all about Windows 8. Now, this is going to fail, because I said so, and I'm the smartest man on this planet. Do not let my cockiness detract you from the topic at hand. This will happen, because Microsoft is ignoring the human needs and focusing on technology, which is the expected kneejerk reaction from a company pressed into a corner by its own arrogant decisions.
    Now, aside from the views about the desktop, which I agree, the bold is where he reverts back to an idiot.

    The desktop is still there!

    JESUS! No one is taking away keyboard and mouse input!

    Last edited by EMINENT; 11 May 2013 at 04:27.
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  9. #19


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    That was the entire point ...


    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    Now, aside from the views about the desktop, which I agree, the bold is where he is reverts back to an idiot.

    The desktop is still there!

    JESUS! No one is taking away keyboard and mouse input!

    That was the entire point of the article.
    I guess you missed it.
    And so, in line with their strategy, making the tiled interface work better is a smart thing to do, and has nothing to do with any death of any desktop.
    ...
    As far as the desktop is concerned, whether we're talking a large computer in your living room or the rectangular interface where you click on things and whatnot, it might one day vanish in its current incarnation, but that will not happen until a technology that offers superior functionality comes and becomes dominant.
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post

    Windows Blue has nothing to do with the desktop. First and foremost, Windows Blue is all about Windows 8. Now, this is going to fail, because I said so, and I'm the smartest man on this planet. Do not let my cockiness detract you from the topic at hand. This will happen, because Microsoft is ignoring the human needs and focusing on technology, which is the expected kneejerk reaction from a company pressed into a corner by its own arrogant decisions.
    Now, aside from the views about the desktop, which I agree, the bold is where he is reverts back to an idiot.

    The desktop is still there!

    JESUS! No one is taking away keyboard and mouse input!

    An idiot or does he have a style of humor that you don't approve of?

    The man get his point across with style. He makes a lot of sense too.
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