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The writing is in the Cloud.

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    The writing is in the Cloud.


    It's the cloud or bust for Adobe and its customers.
    Can you feel the ground shaking? That's just Adobe, which today made an earth-rattling announcement regarding its plans to go all-in with the cloud. Adobe Creative Cloud is the company's new flagship offering, a re-imagining of the Creative Suite, if you will, which will no longer see new releases (so no Creative Suite 7, which many anticipated would be announced today) but will continue to be supported.
    Adobe Says Goodbye to Creative Suite, Hello to Creative Cloud | Maximum PC

    Et tu, Microsoft?

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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    50 USD a month -- no good if you aren't connected to the internet -- for a product that costs around 700 USD (updates from earlier versions are cheaper than the base price) -- so after 1 Year you are already going to be worse off while after two you really start to feel the pain.

    As I said - for Software subscription models --I'm Outt'a here.

    In the long term its always much more EXPENSIVE -- and you'll be surprised with these monthly things how so many dollars here, so many dollars there just adds up to a horrendous total

    Welcome back to Impossible budgeting and never ending Debt spirals. Honestly people KEEP AWAY and minimize at all costs monthly outgoings.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    I agree. I'm still using CS4 and the only components that I use on a regular basis is PS and Acrobat. Paying $50/month (which will incur the Australia Tax, so it'll probably be more) would make the entire proposal cost prohibitive. Interesting that there was no statement about individual programs, so does that mean they too will be only available 'in the cloud'?

    This is where I see Microsoft going, Office 365 is the start and will invariably lead to boxed versions disappearing. However, it's interesting that people keep predicting the death of the PC, yet these fixed environments are where most of these programs are used on a regular basis, with large or multiple monitors, especially when you consider Photoshop. Mobile connectivity is still problematic in many parts of the world, so how will these users be able to use these products, if they are only available 'in the cloud'?

    I originally thought that the subscription service meant you still downloaded the program and could use it anywhere, but reading the article, it seems that the Adobe product at least, is only available 'in the cloud', that is, you use the program/s directly from an Adobe server, having access to all of their programs. I wonder how this will work when latency issues etc come into play?
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    Windows 8, Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    50 USD a month -- no good if you aren't connected to the internet -- for a product that costs around 700 USD (updates from earlier versions are cheaper than the base price) -- so after 1 Year you are already going to be worse off while after two you really start to feel the pain.

    As I said - for Software subscription models --I'm Outt'a here.

    In the long term its always much more EXPENSIVE -- and you'll be surprised with these monthly things how so many dollars here, so many dollars there just adds up to a horrendous total

    Welcome back to Impossible budgeting and never ending Debt spirals. Honestly people KEEP AWAY and minimize at all costs monthly outgoings.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I've been using the CC version of Adobe's software for about 6 months now and besides the initial download, you don't need to be connected to the Internet to use the software. Most people use more than one software title from Adobe (not all, but most) and obviously the more titles you use, the cheaper per title your subscription cost is. Of course if you're lucky enough to know someone or some way to get the first year for $30 (cough, me, cough) then it's a more attractive offering, at least for two years.

    Keep in mind, Jimbo, that the packages are $1200-3000 USD. Creative Cloud is geared towards those audiences. If you're an existing CS user (CS3 or newer) your first year is $30/month anyway, should you chose to move.

    Don't forget to share all the details next time you rant
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    So you actually download all the programs onto your PC and can use them anywhere? I assume that if you don't pay the follow-on subscription, they stop working. What would happen if the subscription date runs out and you're somewhere without connectivity, does the program stop working? Or are you committed to giving Adobe your credit card details and they just automatically deduct the $50?
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    It's just one more way for a huge, mega greedy corp to squeeze more money outta the user for it's products. That's all it is, unbridled greed.
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    Sloe Deth, Californicatia
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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7


    I use Creative Cloud in a small way already, with Adobe PS Touch. But I like PS Express better. I've had a creative cloud account for about 3 years now, I use it to store images I edited with PS Express and PS Touch.

    I just looked in the store, where are PS Touch and PS Express? Where are Autodesk Pilxromatic, Express+, Autodesk 360 and AutoCAD WS? Not in the Windows 8 store, thats's where they ain't!
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    It is called consumer monetisation, or revenue management.

    If they called it unbridled greed, that might put people off.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    It's just one more way for a huge, mega greedy corp to squeeze more money outta the user for it's products. That's all it is, unbridled greed.
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    I used Photo-Shop 6 for around 10 years.

    Just got Photo-Shop CS2, and it's more than adequate for my needs. I'll happily sit on it for another 10 years.

    I won't use/buy cloud-based software, it must be on my machine and 100% independent of the internet.


    Wenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    It's just one more way for a huge, mega greedy corp to squeeze more money outta the user for it's products. That's all it is, unbridled greed.
    Exactly.

    These companies at least at the consumer level are going to find out that just because a few arrogant clueless MBAs want something isn't going to make it happen.

    Customer still rules.

    Oh, and by the way if those stupid MBAs haven't noticed....just because the DOW is doing fine doesn't mean main street is, as a matter of fact things are looking increasingly bleak on main street. So your greedy lust and obnoxious plans are going to fail, miserably.

    Not to mention the vulnerability of such systems whether you are talking about natural disasters, or security. Think about it MS sure you can offer up cloud based stuff to folks that want to risk it, but you better be wise and also offer the traditional systems for the majority that see the problems.
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