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  1. #51


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    remember Lotus 1-2-3 and Ami Word -- which were almost the de-facto standards in spread sheet and word processing applications - both these soon got absolutely CANED by a new upstart called "Microsoft".
    Lotus 1-2-3 lasted until earlier this week!
    Goodbye, Lotus 1-2-3 | ZDNet

    I was quite surprised it was still around to be honest. I did use it until Excel 4.0a came along, but then never looked back.

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  2. #52


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    It is not the software I am worried about it is the internet usage charges that will be affected phone internet was all you can eat now it is not. Email is next they will charge both ways for email like I said the list goes on.
    In Australia, we've never had an 'all you can eat' option with internet, it's always been charged on speed and/or download quantity.
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  3. #53


    Here is what they really want.

    App metering: A nonsensical licensing model
    For applications like Creative Suite and Office, there is no justification for metering. There is no capacity issue; after all the software runs locally on your computer. It's like trying to charge people each time they read a book they bought, each time they play an album they bought, or each time they watch a DVD they bought. No wonder Creative Suite users are angry!
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  4. #54


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    I found this comment quite ironic, considering how Microsoft removed the boot to desktop and start button options:

    But Microsoft, as it made plain on Tuesday when it took a swipe at Adobe's decision, has retained perpetual licenses for Office 2013, which runs on Windows, and Office for Mac 2011.

    "Unlike Adobe, we think people's shift from packaged software to subscription services will take time," said Clint Patterson, director of communications for Office, in a blog post. "We are committed to offering choice -- premier software sold as a package and powerful services sold as a subscription."
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  5. #55


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    "Unlike Adobe, we think people's shift from packaged software to subscription services will take time,"
    Let me translate that for you:

    We are going to bleed you dry. Unlike the other nasty companies, we are going to do it slowly. Isn't that nice of us.
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  6. #56


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    What I really meant was that if Microsoft feels that moving to a subscription service will take time (for people to accept this model), then how on earth did they presume that moving to the MPI, in one fell swoop, wouldn't cause acceptance issues and also take time?
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  7. #57


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    They have only decided to act peoples champion recently.

    They had stiff resistance to 8/metro and they smelt it was coming when they proposed changes to office licensing.

    They backed off that - temporarily.
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  8. #58


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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Massively Overreact


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    "Unlike Adobe, we think people's shift from packaged software to subscription services will take time,"
    Let me translate that for you:

    We are going to bleed you dry. Unlike the other nasty companies, we are going to do it slowly. Isn't that nice of us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    What I really meant was that if Microsoft feels that moving to a subscription service will take time (for people to accept this model), then how on earth did they presume that moving to the MPI, in one fell swoop, wouldn't cause acceptance issues and also take time?
    Perhaps they mean, they are planning to "miss the boat" and then massively overreact.
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  9. #59


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    "Unlike Adobe, we think people's shift from packaged software to subscription services will take time,"
    Let me translate that for you:

    We are going to bleed you dry. Unlike the other nasty companies, we are going to do it slowly. Isn't that nice of us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    What I really meant was that if Microsoft feels that moving to a subscription service will take time (for people to accept this model), then how on earth did they presume that moving to the MPI, in one fell swoop, wouldn't cause acceptance issues and also take time?
    Perhaps they mean, they are planning to "miss the boat" and then massively overreact.
    Hi there
    A more realistic translation would be

    "We'll introduce this so slowly and stealthily that people won't notice until it's too late and we'll also avoid any bad publicity. By the time people notice it will be too late for them to resort to alternative solutions as we will have long since withdrawn all our standard perpetually licensed offerings".

    That's the way companies tend to operate --sucker the customers (nowadays increasingly called punters so it shows what they really think of their customers) in with a lot of sweet talk and then rely on the usual inertia of people to avoid change by then raising prices etc etc. How often do people change their Bank accounts for example.

    You can usually see examples of this type of practice everyday on TV commercials. On a recent visit to the UK you can see almost half hourly TV commercials for special offer low priced or even FREE broadband (always for NEW customers !!) for the first six months and then Bang the full price. Also what they often don't show (or show in Tiny letters right at the bottom of the screen) that you HAVE to pay XX.XX GBP per month for "Line Rental" regardless of whether or not you actually want or need their phone service,

    Mind you what on earth is "Line Rental" on a fibre optic high speed digital cable system -- I'm an Engineer and I still can't work out what that is yet --anybody in the telecoms 'biz --please explain. (I know what the old "traditional Line" is but on a fibre optic digital system ????).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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