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  1. #41


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    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    Hi there
    CS6 will work for YEARS -- also if you don't use all the CS6 features CS2 is available FREE on the adobe site as "Abandonware" - but grab it while you can. I only upgraded to CS6 because I use the extended version with 3-D support.

    If you use CS2 --99% of CS2 is more than enough for non Pros (and even for a lot of pros too) then you can convert RAW files for unsupported newer cameras by simply using the CAMERAS own software to convert the RAW file to TIFF etc --then carry on working in photoshop.

    It will be a long time --if ever before I pay Adobe a subscription to use Photoshop.

    Link for CS2 software - includes PUBLISHED serial numbers --100% legit on Adobes OWN SITE

    Adobe - CS2 Downloads

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Getting off track for a minute, but...

    One of the things that make people upgrade their Adobe products is the new versions of ACR (Adobe Camera Raw). If you have a new DSLR (Digital SLR) and shoot RAW, the older versions of Adobe & Lightroom may not support the camera's new RAW files - For Nikon those are .NEF, for Canon they are CR2.

    Example, I have a Nikon D800E, and though CS5's ACR can read the NEF files from the camera, it is version 6.7, contrast that to CS6's ACR which latest version is 7.4 - upgraded features, better interface.

    CS5 - Adobe issues ACR 6.7 - final version of Camera Raw for CS5: Digital Photography Review

    Lightroom & CS6 - Adobe releases Lightroom 4.4 and Adobe Camera Raw 7.4: Digital Photography Review

    So, you buy a new DSLR today, but your old version of Adobe is CS2, or Lightroom 2... guess what? They aren't going to support the Camera's new RAW format. So, you either have to upgrade, use the default (often inferior) software, or find something else.

    This of course is for those of us who shoot RAW exclusively, which is the best way to shoot (DLSR) as the file can be manipulated much more easily without losing or destroying data. It is considered the "master" negative.

    Anyway I thought I'd drop that bit of tid-bit in.
    Hi there
    If you read the post completely -- you can ALWAYS convert RAW to TIFF (LOSSLESS CONVERSION) via the cameras own software and then simply use photo shop just as before. You don't always have to wait for a ne w RAW plugin to be available before using Photoshop with RAW files --the trick is to LOSSLESSY convert the files to a format photo shop can handle.

    Actually there aren't that many PRO DSLR's that CS2 won't handle the RAW format for (with the latest available plugin for that version of photoshop) - still available.

    I'm talking here of Professional Full FRAME DSLR's like Canon 5D, 1D MKII, 1D MK III etc.

    Most Pro photographers don't change reliable Gear that often anyway -

    In any case try this

    Adobe - Adobe Camera Raw and DNG Converter : For Windows : Adobe DNG Converter 7.4

    Cheers
    jimbo

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  2. #42


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    It is the menu that users want.

    Not just a button.

    MS look as if they are playing selective hearing.

    We won't know for sure till we see it of course
    What part of saying over and over again and Microsoft saying over and over again, THE START MENU IS NOT COMING BACK.

    Deal with it.
    M$ is the one that has to DEAL WITH IT the low sales the constant bitching and above ALL the bad press.
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  4. #44


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post

    Hi there
    CS6 will work for YEARS -- also if you don't use all the CS6 features CS2 is available FREE on the adobe site as "Abandonware" - but grab it while you can. I only upgraded to CS6 because I use the extended version with 3-D support.

    If you use CS2 --99% of CS2 is more than enough for non Pros (and even for a lot of pros too) then you can convert RAW files for unsupported newer cameras by simply using the CAMERAS own software to convert the RAW file to TIFF etc --then carry on working in photoshop.

    It will be a long time --if ever before I pay Adobe a subscription to use Photoshop.

    Link for CS2 software - includes PUBLISHED serial numbers --100% legit on Adobes OWN SITE

    Adobe - CS2 Downloads

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Getting off track for a minute, but...

    One of the things that make people upgrade their Adobe products is the new versions of ACR (Adobe Camera Raw). If you have a new DSLR (Digital SLR) and shoot RAW, the older versions of Adobe & Lightroom may not support the camera's new RAW files - For Nikon those are .NEF, for Canon they are CR2.

    Example, I have a Nikon D800E, and though CS5's ACR can read the NEF files from the camera, it is version 6.7, contrast that to CS6's ACR which latest version is 7.4 - upgraded features, better interface.

    CS5 - Adobe issues ACR 6.7 - final version of Camera Raw for CS5: Digital Photography Review

    Lightroom & CS6 - Adobe releases Lightroom 4.4 and Adobe Camera Raw 7.4: Digital Photography Review

    So, you buy a new DSLR today, but your old version of Adobe is CS2, or Lightroom 2... guess what? They aren't going to support the Camera's new RAW format. So, you either have to upgrade, use the default (often inferior) software, or find something else.

    This of course is for those of us who shoot RAW exclusively, which is the best way to shoot (DLSR) as the file can be manipulated much more easily without losing or destroying data. It is considered the "master" negative.

    Anyway I thought I'd drop that bit of tid-bit in.
    Hi there
    If you read the post completely -- you can ALWAYS convert RAW to TIFF (LOSSLESS CONVERSION) via the cameras own software and then simply use photo shop just as before. You don't always have to wait for a ne w RAW plugin to be available before using Photoshop with RAW files --the trick is to LOSSLESSY convert the files to a format photo shop can handle.

    Actually there aren't that many PRO DSLR's that CS2 won't handle the RAW format for (with the latest available plugin for that version of photoshop) - still available.[/URL]

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Hi there,

    I did read the post completely! I added MY comments for a different perspective. You might re-read my post.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    I'm talking here of Professional Full FRAME DSLR's like Canon 5D, 1D MKII, 1D MK III etc.

    Most Pro photographers don't change reliable Gear that often anyway

    Cheers
    jimbo
    And, FYI - The Nikon D800E is a FULL FRAME PRO camera body

    - Nikon D800 D-SLR Camera | High Dynamic Range Camera
    - Nikon D800 and D800E 36MP full-frame DSLRs announced: Digital Photography Review

    And, yes, a lot of Pro photographers DO upgrade to newer camera bodies.

    At any rate, this isn't the forum for that debate so moving right along.


    Peace
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  5. #45


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    Just to throw a little something into the mix; HDR Toning, and Healing Tool in PS CS6. . .enjoy the day. . .
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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Adobe has confirmed one thing, Lightroom won't be turned into a subscription model (just yet); however, they 'envision' providing added functionality for CC members: Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction: Digital Photography Review. In English, that means unless you're a CC subscriber, you're screwed.
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    Originally Posted by SIW2 It is the menu that users want.

    Not just a button.

    MS look as if they are playing selective hearing.

    We won't know for sure till we see it of course

    MS could make 8 much more palatable without sacrificing their push to online services.

    Not the way you might think.

    They are welcome to contact me.
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  8. #48


    The meter's on all the time: Tech's 'greed is good' era arrives

    Adobe Systems is forcing its Creative Suite users to pay a monthly subscription of $50 to $70 for what it is calling Creative Cloud; you'll pay $80 per month if you don't sign a one-year commitment. There'll soon no longer be a version you can buy once and use forever, as the version 6 Creative Suite will be available only for an unspecified time. Along the same lines, Microsoft says it won't guarantee that Office will always be available in the traditional one-time-purchase license, and it's clear that Office 2013 is the transition step to a subscription-only model like Adobe's. Expect every major software publisher to do the same in the next few years.
    The meter's on all the time: Tech's 'greed is good' era arrives | Consumerization Of It - InfoWorld

    The meter is running it has already happened with phones next it will happen with cable and the list will go on and on.
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  9. #49


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    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    The meter's on all the time: Tech's 'greed is good' era arrives


    Adobe Systems is forcing its Creative Suite users to pay a monthly subscription of $50 to $70 for what it is calling Creative Cloud; you'll pay $80 per month if you don't sign a one-year commitment. There'll soon no longer be a version you can buy once and use forever, as the version 6 Creative Suite will be available only for an unspecified time. Along the same lines, Microsoft says it won't guarantee that Office will always be available in the traditional one-time-purchase license, and it's clear that Office 2013 is the transition step to a subscription-only model like Adobe's. Expect every major software publisher to do the same in the next few years.
    The meter's on all the time: Tech's 'greed is good' era arrives | Consumerization Of It - InfoWorld

    The meter is running it has already happened with phones next it will happen with cable and the list will go on and on.
    Hi there
    Don't panic -- latest versions of Office and Cs6 will still continue to work for DONKEYS YEARS yet --I'll probably be long since gone into the proverbial box 2 metres long (would be a tight fit for me though) and buried 2 metres under the ground before this stuff stops working.

    And if it does SOMEBODY will design equivalent applications that we can turn to -- after all remember Lotus 1-2-3 and Ami Word -- which were almost the de-facto standards in spread sheet and word processing applications - both these soon got absolutely CANED by a new upstart called "Microsoft".

    Human ingenuity will soon develop suitable alternatives when the conditions are right. Libre Office for example isn't yet fit for prime time - and there isn't a huge pressure on any body to develop it a lot further yet since Office 2007/2010 and even 2013 can be had relatively cheaply. Remove these versions and the whole ball game changes radically.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #50


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    The meter's on all the time: Tech's 'greed is good' era arrives


    Adobe Systems is forcing its Creative Suite users to pay a monthly subscription of $50 to $70 for what it is calling Creative Cloud; you'll pay $80 per month if you don't sign a one-year commitment. There'll soon no longer be a version you can buy once and use forever, as the version 6 Creative Suite will be available only for an unspecified time. Along the same lines, Microsoft says it won't guarantee that Office will always be available in the traditional one-time-purchase license, and it's clear that Office 2013 is the transition step to a subscription-only model like Adobe's. Expect every major software publisher to do the same in the next few years.
    The meter's on all the time: Tech's 'greed is good' era arrives | Consumerization Of It - InfoWorld

    The meter is running it has already happened with phones next it will happen with cable and the list will go on and on.
    Hi there
    Don't panic -- latest versions of Office and Cs6 will still continue to work for DONKEYS YEARS yet --I'll probably be long since gone into the proverbial box 2 metres long (would be a tight fit for me though) and buried 2 metres under the ground before this stuff stops working.

    And if it does SOMEBODY will design equivalent applications that we can turn to -- after all remember Lotus 1-2-3 and Ami Word -- which were almost the de-facto standards in spread sheet and word processing applications - both these soon got absolutely CANED by a new upstart called "Microsoft".

    Human ingenuity will soon develop suitable alternatives when the conditions are right. Libre Office for example isn't yet fit for prime time - and there isn't a huge pressure on any body to develop it a lot further yet since Office 2007/2010 and even 2013 can be had relatively cheaply. Remove these versions and the whole ball game changes radically.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    It is not the software I am worried about it is the internet usage charges that will be affected phone internet was all you can eat now it is not. Email is next they will charge both ways for email like I said the list goes on.
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