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Windows 8 inches up in desktop OS market

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    What is the actual point of RT? I've never fathomed that, given Windows 8 has the same functionality.
    Neither has the OEMs most are not even selling them.

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    Steam Hardware & Software Survey

    Windows 8 is already over 11% on the Steam Hardware Survey. that's a better indicator in terms of people who regularly spend money on their PCs.

    the older indicators include PCs that people never intend on upgrading in any way. the people who have Windows XP on a Pentium 4 machine and are still using Office XP or Office 2003. They've fallen off the upgrade curve and are fine with that.

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    Exactly what proportion of the computing public are avid gamers, those who almost continually upgrade their PCs?
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    but Microsoft is now doing a good job of supporting its partners
    Supporting - there's a surprise.

    Interesting little thing here:

    Epic Citadel HTML5 demo launched; IE browsers are left out - Neowin

    Epic Citadel

    I just had a look at it in ubuntu 13.04 - looks promising.
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  5. #15


    None of the versions of Microsoft's Internet Explorer will run the demo, because they don't support WebGL, which Microsoft claims is too much of a security risk to add to any version of IE
    M$ still playing big brother.
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    Apparently MS 8 and RT sales achieved 1.8% share in Q1.

    Combined total across all vendors doubled that to 3.6%.

    Bit different form the 7.5% quoted elsewhere.

    Worldwide Tablet Market Surges Ahead on Strong First Quarter Sales, Says IDC - prUS24093213
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Exactly what proportion of the computing public are avid gamers, those who almost continually upgrade their PCs?
    when you're doing metrics, you look at metrics that matter. marketshare at all cost doesn't mean squat. if you want just marketshare, you can give it away for free.

    if you're polling people who they're going to vote for the presidential election, you don't poll everyone. you poll people most likely to vote.

    same thing with PC purchases. you look for the demographics that spend money. way back when, people scoffed at the notion of metrics looking at the smartphone buying demographic. smartphones were a sliver of a population base compared to feature phones. and now smartphones are becoming the dominant base.

    If you look at some of those net metrics, those ancient IE versions still have a significant share. But that audience that uses them aren't targeted by anyone anymore. It's why Microsoft is having to pose their latest IE as a Mozilla browser so that the browser gets fed the correct form.
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    if you want just marketshare, you can give it away for free.
    .

    Linux has a fabulous share as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Exactly what proportion of the computing public are avid gamers, those who almost continually upgrade their PCs?
    when you're doing metrics, you look at metrics that matter. marketshare at all cost doesn't mean squat. if you want just marketshare, you can give it away for free.

    if you're polling people who they're going to vote for the presidential election, you don't poll everyone. you poll people most likely to vote.

    same thing with PC purchases. you look for the demographics that spend money. way back when, people scoffed at the notion of metrics looking at the smartphone buying demographic. smartphones were a sliver of a population base compared to feature phones. and now smartphones are becoming the dominant base.

    If you look at some of those net metrics, those ancient IE versions still have a significant share. But that audience that uses them aren't targeted by anyone anymore. It's why Microsoft is having to pose their latest IE as a Mozilla browser so that the browser gets fed the correct form.
    So you're effectively agreeing with me that the majority of people, the mainstream computer users, don't even need Windows 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    What is the actual point of RT? I've never fathomed that, given Windows 8 has the same functionality.

    If Microsoft had wanted a leaner OS to extend battery life, simplify things or the like, why not design Windows 8 as a dual-mode OS and be able to switch between the two for when you want to work hard and when you want to play lean. I believe that one manufacturer actually offers a laptop that runs both Windows and Android for that very purpose.
    So someone would have to go buy a 700 dollar x86 Windows 8 tablet PC just to check their email and internet browsing? Windows RT is better suited for that and less expensive currently. Problem is though, OEMs decided to make their RT tablets to be at least 600 dollars, hence why there wasn't a strong reason to go RT over full blown 8.

    It seems 8.1 will change that though, with smaller 8 inch tablets with RT will be more effective in that arena.
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