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    Quote Originally Posted by XweAponX View Post
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    This works great on my Android as well. Sure the hell beats typing on the small on-screen keyboard. Our modern technology is something to behold.

    I'm old enough to remember seeing the premiere of 2001: A Space Odyssey in the summer of 69......"Sorry, Dave, I can't do that". I was 18. I thought I'd never see the day to speak to a computer let alone a cell phone! There were no desktop PCs nor cell phones.

    One thing that is Superior with the galaxy IIIS versus the iPhone 4S and 5 is the voice recognition. I had taken ill on Christmas last year and my friends daughter took me home, she had a brand new Galaxy and was tweeking with it all during dinner -When she got in the car she continued to tweek with it, opening apps by voice, getting directions to my house, and at the same time holding a text conversation with someone else by Voice.

    I had to install all kinds of extra addons to get similar functionality out of Siri, Assistant Love, SiriToggles, Hands Free. It worked great for a month, then I installed something that deleted my name from Siri, and suddenly I could no longer open apps, it would just say I don't have any apps installed.
    I'll have to try the GS III's voice recognition, as pretty much all android handsets kind of suck with that compared to Windows Phone 7 and 8. iphone's isn't that great.

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    I shall have the last laugh when this happens!

    This is funny to me because of people who say Windows Phone sucks and whatnot who are iphone users especially, they'll be basically using an OS that is designed more like Windows Phone. I want to go to an apple store when ios 7 comes out and be like, "Whoa, is this the new Windows Phone?!"

    But in all seriousness, this won't look good for apple at all. When a company that has gone from leading the way of design for everyone else to knock off and claim they are the best, to a company that is slowly and slowly and subtly knocking off others' designs and still claim they are the best; that's when they officially on their way for a fall. Microsoft should REALLY promote the Windows Phone UI pretty hard in the coming months on TV so when the next iphone and ios update comes out, people will question them and think apple is actually stealing Microsoft's design. Not only that, but the critics I bet will TEAR into apple for doing so.
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    Do you really think a product with a giant share will be copying from one with a teeny share?

    They may well change the look. ( I have been expecting that ).

    It may indeed be a little less detailed and somewhat flat.

    That doesn't mean they are copying.

    The design will be about simplicity. That is what Apple are good at.

    8 design lacks visual detail and relief to the point of blandness - lack of detail is not the same as simplicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Do you really think a product with a giant share will be copying from one with a teeny share?
    Yes, because the new ios development head is the same person that designed the minimally modern designed apple hardware. And yes, because tim cook is apple's Steve Ballmer and doesn't really give a flying pack of crap about details of the product, versus the overall sales of the product. He isn't a tech man, not a details man. He is a position holder that won't get involved with ios or mac os development or design.
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    If Johnny is doing it - then it will be about simplicity. Very different from 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    If Johnny is doing it - then it will be about simplicity. Very different from 8.
    ios design is ALREADY simplicity. The MAIN thing that has been known to have been a conflict with steve jobs and John Ives was job's persistence and demands to have the UI be the way it was, with a reel to reel tape player for the podcasts, a yellow legal pad for notes, and leather stitching in the calendar app on mac os. Ives doesn't like that obviously as it conflicts with his modernist design of hardware. Windows 8 seriously looks better on a mac book than mac os does.

    It's known that Ives is wanting to change the "look and feel" of ios 7, maybe to like Windows Phone 7? Whatever it is, he has no challenges from steve jobs anymore....
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    That makes no sense.

    If he has been wanting to do it for years - then how can you claim he is copying from 8 which is very recent.

    He has been wanting to do it for years - back when Mike (Mace ) was head of platform marketing they were talking about it at Apple.

    Now is the best time for them to do it for a number of reasons, not least of which is that they have been selling the same couple of products for a long time.

    If they make them look different - they can sell them again to the same people who will think it is brand new product. In reality it is the same thing, a few incremental improvements perhaps, and a lick of paint.

    Johnny will of course not just do a slap up paint job for the sake of making it different. He is all about simplicity. That is not the same as removing detail and relief and making everything look bland. Simplicity is describing the article and what it is for. That makes it simple/obvious for the user.

    It is difficult to do it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    That makes no sense.

    If he has been wanting to do it for years - then how can you claim he is copying from 8 which is very recent.

    He has been wanting to do it for years - back when Mike (Mace ) was head of platform marketing they were talking about it .

    Now is the best time for them to do it for a number of reasons, not least of which is that they have been selling the same couple of products for a long time.

    If they make them look different - they can sell them again to the same people who will think it is brand new product. In reality it is the same thing, a few incremental improvements perhaps, and a lick of paint.
    Ummm, because it's been kind of known through internal sources at apple that were made into internet published articles on sites such as the verge that claim that the late steve jobs and John Ives clashed on ios and mac os design and that other UI designers at apple cringed at things like the leather stitching and the faux skeuomorphic design steve jobs pushed and demanded.

    steve jobs is dead if you haven't noticed, and John Ives just recently became head of ios design after being the top hardware designer at apple. There is no conflict between him and jobs anymore about design. What HE wants to see is what will result, instead of what steve jobs wants.

    My guess however at ios 7's design will be more like Office 2013. It's based off the previous version's UI design, but flattened among other things.
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    If he has been wanting to do it for years - then how can you claim he is copying from 8 which is very recent.
    I can guarantee you it is nothing to do with copying from anybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    If he has been wanting to do it for years - then how can you claim he is copying from 8 which is very recent.
    I can guarantee you it is nothing to do with copying from anybody.
    You would know since you're an apple employee....
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