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'Ransomware' tricks victims into paying hefty fines

  1. #31


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    100% effective way to get rid of it: Works EVERY TIME. About 20 mins max and Job Done.

    Wipe the disk and restore from a CLEAN backup image with a BOOTABLE stand alone backup / restore program like acronis.

    Use Partition Magic (bootable) or similar to wipe the disk --don't use any AV software for cleansing -these can never be 100% guaranteed to be effective and the computer is already infected. Don't do the disk re-format / partitioning from within Windows itself as it's already infected so how would you be sure windows was working properly.

    If you haven't got a backup -- "Tough Ladies Accoutrements... " Serves you right so learn for next time.

    Forget Symantec -- It's as about as USELESS in the AV field as GARTNER is in forcasting computer developments. Anyway on Windows 8 you DON'T NEED ANY 3rd party AV - the built in Windows defender is just as effective as ANY of the other ones and if you do install a 3rd party AV software the Ms version stops working and in any case things like Symantec and McAfee (we know it as McAWFUL) are just RESOURCE HOGS.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    A lot of good advice here, but jimbo's advice I think to be best both time and efficiency wise. Clean, certain, and fast.

    I'm sitting here wondering if the crap is sitting on this customer's machine or not. Even in part. Who knows what this thing befalls us?

    It gets to be chasing good money after bad on these older machines for these people. I'll give him all the options. I'll quote him a very fair price since I feel I didn't do it 100% the first time.

    - I'll offer him to perform a clean install, load programs he likes, and perform a mirror image.
    - Upgrade RAM. That'll make a big difference for the buck in this case.
    - If looking at upgrading the OS, one may as well chuck the machine and buy new IMO, but I'll give him that option.
    - Or simply do nothing.

    I realize to each their own, but, so far as AV is concerned, I'll stick with jimbo (and others) on that, too. Business is a different scenario, but for home use, one can't beat the price of Defender or MSE. I hear it out of azasadny as well. He does AV testing for a large corp as a profession.

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  2. #32


    Posts : 146
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    So it's more difficult than I thought, no Ctrl Alt Delete, Task Manager settings... Since I never encountered it I don't know the difficulty level.
    RESET - FORMAT/RESTORE remains the safest way in the end.

    I don't trust cleaners. If this thing is really complex and well-made, it might trick some cleaners/AV and restore/copy itself back to positions in no time. Should you still use a network or internet connection then it even gets worse. Removing the network connection/cable or stop wifi is the first thing to do after you see the warning screen.
    Well the article did say virus companies are working on it, and hopefully someone has developed a more effective way to get rid of it.
    Hi there
    100% effective way to get rid of it: Works EVERY TIME. About 20 mins max and Job Done.

    Wipe the disk and restore from a CLEAN backup image with a BOOTABLE stand alone backup / restore program like acronis.

    Use Partition Magic (bootable) or similar to wipe the disk --don't use any AV software for cleansing -these can never be 100% guaranteed to be effective and the computer is already infected. Don't do the disk re-format / partitioning from within Windows itself as it's already infected so how would you be sure windows was working properly.

    If you haven't got a backup -- "Tough Ladies Accoutrements... " Serves you right so learn for next time.

    Forget Symantec -- It's as about as USELESS in the AV field as GARTNER is in forcasting computer developments. Anyway on Windows 8 you DON'T NEED ANY 3rd party AV - the built in Windows defender is just as effective as ANY of the other ones and if you do install a 3rd party AV software the Ms version stops working and in any case things like Symantec and McAfee (we know it as McAWFUL) are just RESOURCE HOGS.


    Cheers
    jimbo
    Hi Jimbo.

    You talk a lot of sense most of the time but every now and then WHOOPS....Windows Defender....unless you know more than respected AV security testing sites such as AV Test and AV Comparatives. You are giving unwarranted credit to WD when in reality
    its protection is abysmal.
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  3. #33


    Arnhem, The Netherlands
    Posts : 1,412
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Media Center Edition


    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    Hi Jimbo.

    You talk a lot of sense most of the time but every now and then WHOOPS....Windows Defender....unless you know more than respected AV security testing sites such as AV Test and AV Comparatives. You are giving unwarranted credit to WD when in reality
    its protection is abysmal.
    Do you have proof about that? I think that Windows Defender is a great Antivirus tool. And wouldn't Microsoft be the company to now best how they can defend their OWN product?

    So, I'd like te see some evidence before accepting these allegations.

    Greetz,

    Rover
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  4. #34


    Posts : 146
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Der Snoober View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    Hi Jimbo.

    You talk a lot of sense most of the time but every now and then WHOOPS....Windows Defender....unless you know more than respected AV security testing sites such as AV Test and AV Comparatives. You are giving unwarranted credit to WD when in reality
    its protection is abysmal.
    Do you have proof about that? I think that Windows Defender is a great Antivirus tool. And wouldn't Microsoft be the company to now best how they can defend their OWN product?

    So, I'd like te see some evidence before accepting these allegations.

    Greetz,

    Rover
    Simple...Google the two AV testing sites I have named and look at the results....All the proof you need.
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  5. #35


    Arnhem, The Netherlands
    Posts : 1,412
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Media Center Edition


    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    Simple...Google the two AV testing sites I have named and look at the results....All the proof you need.
    No offence there....but I can put up a site that says all of different things. So, just one or two random sites doesn't say much to me.
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  6. #36


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    MS said it was basic protection.

    I have no idea why some people leap to different conclusions.

    Here is another review, from a respected source:

    No roundup of free security software is complete without Microsoft’s own free antivirus tool. Sadly, a very poor performance in our malware detection tests means Security Essentials is one option we can’t recommend.
    Best free antivirus for 2013 | Buying Guides | Features | PC Pro
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  7. #37


    USA
    Posts : 689
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Like I said, let the flame wars begin with the my AV is better than yours "facts"; err... I mean opinions
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  8. #38


    @ All

    Coke is better than Pepsi.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    MS said it was basic protection.
    Where did MS ever state this? MS takes AV and computing safety very seriously. They have a whole site dedicated to teaching users how to keep there devices safe. I don't see other companies with sites such as this. Admittedly no AV is 100%, but teaching people safe surfing is more important IMO, for after all we are our own best AV with safe surfing and safe computer-use habits.

    Defend Your Computer

    No one seems to mention this. For business if one doesn't feel safe with MSE solely:

    Microsoft System Center 2012 | Endpoint Protection

    I have no idea why some people leap to different conclusions.

    Here is another review, from a respected source:

    No roundup of free security software is complete without Microsoft’s own free antivirus tool. Sadly, a very poor performance in our malware detection tests means Security Essentials is one option we can’t recommend.
    Best free antivirus for 2013 | Buying Guides | Features | PC Pro
    BTW, your article speaks of MSE, not Defender in 8. And do you really think one source is reliable?
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  9. #39


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    @ All

    Coke is better than Pepsi.

    BTW, your article speaks of MSE, not Defender in 8. And do you really think one source is reliable?
    I think Windows Defender in Windows 8 is the same as Microsoft Security Essentials.
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  10. #40


    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorA View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    @ All

    Coke is better than Pepsi.

    BTW, your article speaks of MSE, not Defender in 8. And do you really think one source is reliable?
    I think Windows Defender in Windows 8 is the same as Microsoft Security Essentials.
    Hi there.

    Defender is different for it is written at kernel level according to what I read.
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