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Sorry Microsoft, but consumers just don't like you....

  1. #61


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Windows Phone on the hand, has social media built in. First few minutes of having one in your hands, you can get signed into your Facebook account, and that's it. You go to the People Hub, all your facebook friends are in it, as well as the news feed. Go to the Photos Hub, you can actually see pictures people have posted, just the pictures. You can go to friend's wall and see what images they've uploaded and their albums. Something you want to share? Literally just a tap away. This is ALL done within the OS, without an app. It's that "feeling" of putting people first on your phone that counts here. On ios 6, when you download the facebook app to share to facebook (Windows Phone ripoff) it asks you if you want to include your facebook friends into your contacts app. This wasn't like this two years ago, where the traditional setup was that you have apps to do literally every task. Want to see a particular facebook friend's post? Open the facebook app. Need to call that friend? Use the contacts app. Need to see the weather this weekend? Open the weather app. Need to know what song is playing on your phone? Open the music app up again. Got an email from someone? Open the mail app since you can tell who or what it is from or what it's about. Got a text message from someone? Open the messaging app since you can see or tell who sent you a message other than a number count. Want to see what the Spanish word of the day is in your translator app? Open the translator app since you can't see what it is from the icon. Need the current stock index prices? Open the stocks app since you can't see anything about them other than an icon.
    Ok, I see where you are going with this. I guess I just don't find it all that compelling. I honestly don't want all of my social media stuff tied together. For example, I have the facebook app on my Android, and I believe by default it added all of my facebook friends to my contacts automagically. When I opened my contacts and saw like 400 people, I was like WTF happened, did things get duplicated. So, I went and figured out how to exclude facebook from populating my contacts...because honestly many facebook friends are not honest to goodness friends that I am going to call up or need to text message.

    So for me, I don't mind opening the facebook app to do facebook stuff, and I don't mind opening up the Amazon MP3 player to do music stuff. I actually prefer having it this way.

    The above is one of the things that has always concerned me about tablets and such, is the fact that with one logon account to the device, you have access to email, pictures, facebook, etc. I might want my kids to be able to surf the web, but I might not want them opening my email to see that I ordered them something from Amazon.com.

    It's the same reason that I don't use my Windows 8 box with my MS account and don't have Skydrive integrated, etc. I just prefer to keep this stuff separate and disparate. I realize not everybody wants it this way.
    Some people do, some don't. The people I know are ACTUAL friends I have, only a few I have never really met in person. Windows Phone does let you filter it out by different contacts list. One that is saved to your default Microsoft account and the rest from other social media.

    I'd rather have things linked together. I'd love to see things I have saved in IE on Windows Phone be on IE on Windows 8, and vice versa. It's slowly getting there though. It's easier to have devices work with each other and have software work with each other versus keeping EVERYTHING separate, I believe at least.

    Also, Windows Phone can be used for other things, as the rest of the OS is just faster, easier, Windows Phone style.

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  2. #62


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Also, Windows Phone can be used for other things, as the rest of the OS is just faster, easier, Windows Phone style.
    Well, I just don't find my Galaxy S3 to be slow or hard.
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  3. #63


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    Quote Originally Posted by geeve420 View Post
    If it's not needed then why include it in iOS (which is taking over Enterprise) or Android? It's there because people do use it...

    So your going to save a texted video on your PC of your Family? Not going to happen with WP8. Not unless you email it to yourself, then get on a pc and downlod it. or open it on the phone then send it to Skydrive, then pull it back down. That is a really round about way of doing something simple. You don't see the need in saving videos of family that live really far away?

    What harm is it having it there if you don't use it? Just don't use it. How many folks do you think use these features on iOS and Android? For some reason someone, somewhere decided to add them just in case. The problem is, if you start to single out certain groups, then eventually you yourself are stuck with a niche market, not a feature rich eco system.

    I know it is a young start but, for a company that prides itself on it's buisness use, they sure did leave them out to dry is all I am saying

    Geeve
    If was sent a family video, I'm damn sure keeping that on SkyDrive as I've had hard drive failures before. One recently died on me, even though I lost a shite ton of video files, my vital statistics were mostly saved on SkyDrive of which I was able to redownload on my secondary drive and reorganize everything. That sucked because literally days before that drive died, I rearranged my photos library so everything is organized, mostly since I had over 1,500 pictures from my Windows Phone that needed to taken off and sorted. Then the drive died....

    I get your point though, I'm just stating an opposing view. If Windows Phone 8 is REALLY at core Windows, then it should already have certain features like VPN. Windows 7 and I believe 8 both have a hidden feature that NO ONE knows of basically, it's a VPN client. If that's in 8, it should be on Windows Phone. It's a young platform that instead of progressing slowly like ios did, it has to mature quicker than android did.
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  4. #64


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Also, Windows Phone can be used for other things, as the rest of the OS is just faster, easier, Windows Phone style.
    Well, I just don't find my Galaxy S3 to be slow or hard.
    Ahh, but have you used a Windows Phone to compare?
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    I know what you are saying Coke, and I as well was giving a different view on things I also agree it has to step up really fast or become obsolete before it even gets a chance...

    Geeve
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  6. #66


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Also, Windows Phone can be used for other things, as the rest of the OS is just faster, easier, Windows Phone style.
    Well, I just don't find my Galaxy S3 to be slow or hard.
    Ahh, but have you used a Windows Phone to compare?
    I've never owned a Windows phone. I've been in IT for a long while and my companies have always provided my phone. I've had nokia flip phones, nextel's, blackberries and Androids. In the past 5 years, I've had a blackberry storm, a motorola Droid 2 and now a Samsung Galaxy S3. I never found my blackberries or Androids to be slow or difficult. My company is about 70% Android and 30% iPhone. We have 1 person on Blackberry and he cannot wait for his phone contract to be up to get the newest Blackberry phone.
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  7. #67


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    Quote Originally Posted by geeve420 View Post
    I know what you are saying Coke, and I as well was giving a different view on things I also agree it has to step up really fast or become obsolete before it even gets a chance...

    Geeve
    Oh yeah, same thing with Windows 8 kind of. It's a good thing I find that Microsoft is rapid releasing major updates to everything. They have to respond quicker.

    But I don't think Windows Phone will face becoming obsolete anytime soon. There have been several announcements by some companies that they're switching to Windows Phone 8. For some odd reason, Windows Phone 8 just turned on a light bulb with top app developer and saying, "Hey, Windows Phone time!" I bet it's because of the higher specs standards though.
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  8. #68


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Well, I just don't find my Galaxy S3 to be slow or hard.
    Ahh, but have you used a Windows Phone to compare?
    I've never owned a Windows phone. I've been in IT for a long while and my companies have always provided my phone. I've had nokia flip phones, nextel's, blackberries and Androids. In the past 5 years, I've had a blackberry storm, a motorola Droid 2 and now a Samsung Galaxy S3. I never found my blackberries or Androids to be slow or difficult. My company is about 70% Android and 30% iPhone. We have 1 person on Blackberry and he cannot wait for his phone contract to be up to get the newest Blackberry phone.
    Soo...Nokia has a trial program of their Lumia 920 you can easily take advantage of since you do work in IT.
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  9. #69


    Well, in looking at our Verizon Wireless website, the only Nokia I see as available to us is the 822. There hasn't been any demand for Windows Phones at my company.
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  10. #70


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Well, in looking at our Verizon Wireless website, the only Nokia I see as available to us is the 822. There hasn't been any demand for Windows Phones at my company.
    The 928 is to be released next month on Verizon, but I'm saying is that Nokia has a free "two" week trial program where you just use it. Since you work in IT, you can say you do IT work and you will probably be on the top of the list.

    It's best to experience a Windows Phone, since you out of all people seem to use pretty much every device out there.
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