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Sorry Microsoft, but consumers just don't like you....

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Perhaps the only major Microsoft brand that consumers have any strong, positive emotional connection with is Xbox
    The other product that got a lot of positve feedback was Office. And now they are trying to muck that up too.
    Speaking of Office, I never really thought other than myself to really like it, especially 2013. I've gotten several messages on facebook in the past couple of months as well as a couple of friends posting about how awesome 2013 is. WOW! To me, liking Office is a nerdy thing to like, but when normal casual people say, "THE NEW OFFICE IS SO COOL!!!" on facebook? What?! It to me strikes as odd.

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  2. #12


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    I quickly bought a 3 user Office 2010 before they run out of stock. The 2007s are already off the shelves.
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  3. #13


    South Coast NSW, Australia
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    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I quickly bought a 3 user Office 2010 before they run out of stock. The 2007s are already off the shelves.
    I have both (and Office 2000, Office XP and Office 4.3) so I should be OK for a while..

    Wenda.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I quickly bought a 3 user Office 2010 before they run out of stock. The 2007s are already off the shelves.
    I have both (and Office 2000, Office XP and Office 4.3) so I should be OK for a while..

    Wenda.
    Office 4.3? Well then!
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  5. #15


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there.

    GARTNER again --when will people stop believing the rubbish that organisation spouts out every 30 mins.

    For starters Who says people don't love using OFFICE -- nobody ever asked ME --I LOVE using EXCEL whether at work or at home and throughout my whole career it's probably the application I 've used longer and over more time than anything else.

    I don't HATE windows either -- it works, is convenient and usually does the job its intended to do.

    I can't say that ANY other OS I've used works straight out of the box -- even most Linuxes --true they work 90 - 95% of the time but with Linux there's ALWAYS something that doesn't work first time and needs to be fixed --for example it might be something as trivial as a Printer -- it's more often Wireless network cards which makes fixing the problem harder if you can't connect to a wired LAN to get to the internet. And don't forget until recently you had to go through hoops and rings tgo get any sort of commercial DVD playing to work --remember when you had to pick up the LIBCSS de-encryption libraries from a site in Brazil or elsewhere to get the wretched players to work and Linux is still a bit "Iffy" with TV and satellite tuners.

    It's rare that a Windows installation requires a lot "Post installation work" to get a functional system.

    Smart phones --I would have had a W8 phone if it had been available and at the price point that I got the Samsung Galaxy IIIs for -- I can't really say that I'm bothered about WHAT OS is on the phone provided the browser works, there's a few SENSIBLE applications for it and I can read the screen decently.

    As to worrying about the future income stream of Ms --you can say that over EVERY business on this planet -- even organisations like the US Federal Govt have been known to run out of money at times --Ms isn't in ANY imminent danger of doing that.

    True there will need to be some changes to W8 that's just plain obvious and the leaked versions of "Blue" or Windows 8.1 are pointing in that direction.

    Apple of course is more known as a consumer company -- Ms merely provided the platform for consumer products to run on -- OK It's getting more interested and will take a while before these can come on stream --BTW XBOX is doing quite nicely).

    Of course if you look at the Markets where the REAL business sentiment is to be found -- GARTNER PLEASE TAKE NOTE Ms has been doing very nicely while Apple has been absolutely CANED. Of course with the sheer volume of cash Apple has it can probably ride out the storm - but it needs to get some new products out there --a new Iphone model 6 (say) by itself won't cut it anymore - nor will just bribing the stockholders with extra dividend cash to persuade them to keep holding the stock.

    The whole market needs new products at the moment -- Smart TV's are out there but we need some new "Gadgets" and there just aren't any currently. - 3D TV is a hopeless disaster as are 3D movies -- whoever came up with that ludicrous idea that we'd all be sitting at home INSIDE watching TV wearing "Dark Glasses" -- Certainly wasn't anybody who had even the remotest idea of how young kids and Dogs behave. Can't blame Ms on this one for the lack of "Gadgets".

    When I studied in London many years ago I'd often love wandering around Tottenham Court Road where all the electronic shops were and looking at new gadgets - even if I didn't have enough money to buy them. --Now it's just a boring old shopping street looking very similar to those you can can see in 1000's of towns / shopping malls around the world.

    Don't write Ms off yet. Those Enterprise W7 licenses are LONG TERM value.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #16


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    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    I don't dislike ms per se, but I do abhor stupidity, greed and arrogance, which ms is clearly guilty of with the whole metro disaster. It should be clear to any thinking person that ms absolutely should included options to boot to desktop, bypass metro, include start button & menu and disable that ridiculous charms and hot pockets nonsense.

    I mean seriously, if a tiny little free add on could achieve all that so easily, it is the height of hubris for ms not to have done so....

    Oh, and that they now seem poised to return the start button, but tie it the metro start page clearly indicates that they still have not figured it out, leading to a nasty little situation whereby they will now have two successive flops on their hands.

    Oh well... they cannot say that they were not warned.....
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  7. #17


    South Coast NSW, Australia
    Posts : 615
    Windows 8.1 'Ultimate' RTM 64 bit (Pro/WMC).


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I quickly bought a 3 user Office 2010 before they run out of stock. The 2007s are already off the shelves.
    I have both (and Office 2000, Office XP and Office 4.3) so I should be OK for a while..

    Wenda.
    Office 4.3? Well then!
    Still goes, and still perfectly useable, CR.

    Runs on Windows for Workgroups 3.11 in Virtual-Box.

    Don't knock it.


    Wenda.
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  8. #18


    I think the difference between Google and Microsoft is this......Google is a choice and always has been. Microsoft has been really the only choice unless you went with an Apple.
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  9. #19


    Somewhere in USA
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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Not to mention the fact that you need to use 2 different ecosystems if you want an iphone or Android.

    I've already messed with those two and i'm done with them. Too boring ios and too many things to get Android working right. I've messed with plenty of JB roms to care to speak about. So, I ditched them and went full MS because I don't want to use 2 or three ecosystems.

    I'm all for the final convergence for everything to work smoothly and seamlessly between phone and pc, but it's a looooong waiting game with MS that is trying my patience.
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  10. #20


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    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    Not to mention the fact that you need to use 2 different ecosystems if you want an iphone or Android.

    I've already messed with those two and i'm done with them. Too boring ios and too many things to get Android working right. I've messed with plenty of JB roms to care to speak about. So, I ditched them and went full MS because I don't want to use 2 or three ecosystems.

    I'm all for the final convergence for everything to work smoothly and seamlessly between phone and pc, but it's a looooong waiting game with MS that is trying my patience.
    I am about to trade my Nokia and go back to Android. The phone itself is great, but WP8 is just lacking! No VPN, No RDC, Can't save video attachments (MMS or Email), no way to download files that the phone doesn't understand (.exe, .zip, .rar for use later), app store is abismal at the least. Doesn't seem like there is much dev. going on for it.

    While I agree in the general one eco system theory, I think MS has missed the mark and came to the party a little late IMO of course....

    Geeve
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