Why Windows Blue Start Button Debate Doesn’t Really Matter

There are two points to make here. The first is that if you want to reintroduce the Start button or the ability to boot to the desktop, there are plenty of ways of doing that right now with third-party programs. I’m a big fan of Classic Shell, which performs both those tasks, If your sole reason for resisting Windows 8 is the lack of a Start button, you haven’t thought the issue through.

The second point is this. People don’t like change, and one of the arguments against Windows 8 in a corporate environment is that training will undoubtedly be needed to ensure that staff can master the nuances of Windows 8. However, merely returning the Start button won’t eliminate the need for that kind of training. Even if there’s a start button, there are still new elements of the interface that will need to be learned: just off the top of my head, features like Charms, left and right swiping (especially on non-touch devices), installing and updating Windows 8 apps and even working out how to power down your machine all require learning new methods.

Why The Windows Blue Start Button Debate Doesn’t Really Matter | Lifehacker Australia
 
As has been discussed many times here, the comments made by the author completely miss the point.

Firstly, why should anyone have to install third party programs to get back what should not have been removed in the first place?

Secondly, if you can boot directly to the desktop and have the Windows 7 start menu in it's full state, you don't have to learn about charms, swiping, apps and the weird power down.

That's the whole point of having a traditional desktop with the start button. What is it with these geeks that they can't comprehend such a simple concept?
 

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Lol with you last two! :D

WinKey > Right arrow > Enter was all I used it for.
 

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Now would those responses be from IT geeks?
 

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I doubt I qualify as an IT geek. I'm just a regular geek with a very slightly above average amount of tech knowledge ;)
 

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Ok, I'm a IT geek and while I have been able to figure windows 8 out fairly quickly and have been running it in beta/rc/gold for a long time, it isn't just about the start button. It's the disregard of the 30 year history of having a tree-like system to locate and open applications, it's the silly charms and the unbusiness friendly Modern UI. It would require a lot of retraining and that is expensive and difficult especially in cases like ours where we have 125 remote locations and holy crap, some computer people illiterate out there [oh the stories I can tell!]. Why should we go out way to get rid of all of the features that Microsoft is apparently so proud of that irritate the majority of people out there? Businesses are sticking to Windows 7 for a long, long time. It will be the new XP
 

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Ok, I'm a IT geek and while I have been able to figure windows 8 out fairly quickly and have been running it in beta/rc/gold for a long time, it isn't just about the start button. It's the disregard of the 30 year history of having a tree-like system to locate and open applications, it's the silly charms and the unbusiness friendly Modern UI. It would require a lot of retraining and that is expensive and difficult especially in cases like ours where we have 125 remote locations and holy crap, some computer people illiterate out there [oh the stories I can tell!]. Why should we go out way to get rid of all of the features that Microsoft is apparently so proud of that irritate the majority of people out there? Businesses are sticking to Windows 7 for a long, long time. It will be the new XP

I don't even think that some businesses would even consider adapting Windows 8 because of its apps-oriented-start-screen boot interface. A lot of apps are externally linked for download which is a massive threat to online security. One may opt to disable these apps which will render the start screen environment totally useless and unnecessary. Windows 8 is a big joke.
 

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One may opt to disable these apps which will render the start screen environment totally useless and unnecessary. Windows 8 is a big joke.

The start screen environment is quite robust. The start screen yields access to all apps via hot keys.
It is important to consider all factors involved rather than focusing on the metro.

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Microsoft will be very happy indeed to sell and offer at fee service for millions of copies of Windows 7.
Microsoft will be glad to sell you Windows 7.


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It's important to focus on what customers want, not what some user experience stat counter wants.
 

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It's important to focus on what customers want, not what some user experience stat counter wants.

"The customer is ALWAYS right, even though they are COMPLETELY wrong, they are still right."
 

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There aren't any guarantee's that the third party start menu program's will work after blue/8.1 is officially released.
 

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They'll just be recoded if they're not compatible.
 

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But if so, why do we have to keep playing this re-coding game when it's patently obvious that people want the start button?
 

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But if so, why do we have to keep playing this re-coding game when it's patently obvious that people want the start button?

Unless if there are AT LEAST 30 million users on Windows 8 that have a start menu app installed, then that question can be asked. Seeing as that's not really the case, there isn't a point when the new UI is to be more configurable and is/even more usable than the start menu.

Whatever is the reason for a start menu other than preference is there?
 

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