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Windows 8.1 Start button may not offer actual Start menu

  1. #51


    Oh contraire given enough resources, of course.

    Similarly, consider a web server application [such as the multiplatform "Apache HTTP Server"] This web server software can be run on any capable computer. For example, while a laptop or personal computer is not typically known as a server, they can in these situations fulfill the role of one, and hence be labelled as one. It is, in this case, the machine's role that places it in the category of server.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing)

    Not all that savvy or familiar, but if a Start Menu works on a server, why wouldn't the Start Screen work? Don't forget All apps included.

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  2. #52


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    Windows 8, 2012, 7, 2008R2, 2008, 2003, XP,SUSE


    I shouldn't need to fix the missing start button and tablet based UI on a server. The tablet based UI and charms just doesn't work well on a server. Remember, we rarely actually log into a server directly buy remotely
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  3. #53


    Lynnwood, WA
    Posts : 173
    Windows 8, Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by turbofish View Post
    I shouldn't need to fix the missing start button and tablet based UI on a server. The tablet based UI and charms just doesn't work well on a server. Remember, we rarely actually log into a server directly buy remotely
    What do you need to do on a server that Server Manager can't help you with or a simple :windows key, search using that thing called a keyboard:?
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  4. #54


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    Windows 2012 server can operate in one of 3 modes : CLI mode (Dos box with Powershell - loads of enhanced commands available too), Basic desktop mode - or unbelievably in "standard W8 desktop mode" -- I.e Metro).

    So at least when installing W 2012 server you are given the choice of desktop interface and can modify it later.

    Now I for the life of me cannot see any possible reason as to why I would need Metro in any way whatsoever on a SERVER !!!.

    If you Must have the full desktop GUI with Metro etc - then in server configuration just enable the "Desktop Experience". I prefer the bog standard command line version - you get a basic Windows screen with what looks like the old "Dos Box" in it but the shell has been considerably enhanced (Powershell). It's easy to operate this remotely --in any case my servers are all operated as VM's using something like VMWARE'S free Esxi which has minimal overhead and allows the virtual machines access to some real hardware devices.

    I'd imagine most people running servers prefer the CLI interface to a full windows screen - unless for fun you want to run the server as a desktop OS --I've done that with windows 2003 server --makes a first class desktop OS but you need to configure a server a bit to operate satisfactorily as a Desktop / Workstation OS. !! Can be done though and is usually far more robust and efficient than the desktop OS it's replacing. I haven't tried this yet with Windows 2012 server but it can be done.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5. #55


    Metro screen? What's that? Heh, I use the startisback start menu program. It's basically the Win7 start menu with lots of extra customizable goodies. I've had it since the day I installed Win8. I honestly couldn't tell you how the metro screen works, or why apps like adobe reader and Skype have to take up my entire screen (probably shows how little I know about Win8). Win8 boots and I never see the metro screen unless I'm forced to somehow because I can't access an application from my desktop - Skype being an example. For some reason I can't access it from the stat menu/going through the C drive. I have to go to the metro screen and click to run it there.

    Although, I am excited to see what Win 8.1 brings to the table. I believe it to be consumer friendly to at least add the option for the start menu if it is desired.
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  6. #56


    Victoria, BC, Canada
    Posts : 10
    Win8.1 Pro 64 bit


    I didn't notice anyone mention this so I'm going to add my 2 cents. If you just right-click in the bottom left corner you get.........wait for it.........everything that was on the old start menu. Just as a little hint for any new windows users who happen to read this------right-click on everything and if it has additional functions a menu will come up. I've always found this useful and don't know why Microsoft just doesn't tell everyone to right click on everything.

    Power User Tasks Menu - Open in Windows 8
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  7. #57


    Australia
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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    I know I'm stating the obvious, but the Start Button is not a Start Menu, but a link to Modern start screen.

    In essence M$ have replaced the traditional alpha numeric Start Menu with a full screen tile menu.

    Those who use the Modern start screen have more options in Win8.1 than in W8.

    However, those who have no use for apps in Modern start screen, and no desire to ever go there, are not offered any option to use a traditional Start button/Orb which opens an alpha numeric, cascaded start menu. And that's what all the fuss is about.

    IMHO the Win7 Start Orb/Menu had evolved to the ultimate efficiency with search function, jump start, every program/app concisely stored in a few square inches and links to AppData, Favorites, Contacts, etc ... as well as Computer, Control Panel, etc.

    M$ could so easily provide such a classic Start Orb/Alpha Numeric menu, to give traditional desk top users this option. But they point blank refuse. Which is tantamount to saying: "Yes, we'll give you heaps of options to modify the Modern Start Screen, but if you want to modify the desktop to get a legacy start menu .... well go buy third party apps! And, oh, by the way, most of them that you paid for will not work on Win8.1.

    Thanks a bunch M$! That's really showing care for your legion of past desktop users.

    It will be interesting to see how many past M$ fans will be pushed into Mac/Linux, etc ... by this attitude of "Our way or the highway!"
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  8. #58


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    Win 7 Pro x64


    Quote Originally Posted by jmarsh07 View Post
    I didn't notice anyone mention this so I'm going to add my 2 cents. If you just right-click in the bottom left corner you get.........wait for it.........everything that was on the old start menu.


    This is not correct. Right clicking in the area you mentioned brings up administrative options normally found in the control panel. It does NOT bring up everything that was on the old start menu; not even close.
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  9. #59


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    The START button does have a use in Windows 8.1.


    Actually in Windows 8.1 if you switch the navigation to display the APPLICATION screen whenever the START screen is requested FIRST then the start button does have some use. The application screen displays all the installed applications and there are a lot more VERTICAL tiles so for most installations you can avoid the endless scrolling (if you need to scroll at all).

    Note Windows 8.1 has a Windows 8 "Classical Start screen" with the default Metro rubbish and a second Applications screen and in the NAVIGATION icon in the control panel you can choose which of these screens is displayed as the "Start screen".

    You can also of course pin applications to the task bar / desktop / original Classical start screen etc. Just remember when windows applications are installed they are ONLY viewable on the APPLICATIONS screen not the classical start screen -- you have to pin these to that screen if you want to.

    The search is available from EITHER of those screens -- I prefer to display the applications screen initially rather than the START screen.

    I also have set Boot directly to desktop -- set that also in the same NAVIGATION option.

    So pressing the START BUTTON in my case brings up the applications screen which is actually not too bad.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #60


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    64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro


    There sure is a lot of dissension over a this pseudo start button... All you need is to install is Classic Shell and be done with it... The best of both worlds.
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