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    I'm sure that Microsoft, through their user experience program, found that people were using the mouse and keyboard less and less, which is why they have focussed on touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I'm sure that Microsoft, through their user experience program, found that people were using the mouse and keyboard less and less, which is why they have focused on touch.
    I think the experience program showed that people were using the start menu less not the mouse and keyboard. Touch has been around for some time but is getting some traction now with all the new devices (Ipads, smartphones, whatever)

    BTW, I just saw Leap Motion being used in CSI: Miami. Starting with season 6 episode 1.
    They just wave their hands around and windows and pics fly. Looking like a million dollar setup though.
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    Ray8,

    your posts make me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I'm sure that Microsoft, through their user experience program, found that people were using the mouse and keyboard less and less, which is why they have focused on touch.
    Evolving the Start menu - Building Windows 8 - Site Home - MSDN Blogs
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I'm sure that Microsoft, through their user experience program, found that people were using the mouse and keyboard less and less, which is why they have focused on touch.
    Evolving the Start menu - Building Windows 8 - Site Home - MSDN Blogs
    So Microsoft went from a cascading start menu in Windows 95, added a flexible taskbar in Windows 7, to a full screen 'task bar' in Windows 8. We went from the ability to pin programs, depending on frequency of use, from a pop-up start menu, plus cascading start menu, plus taskbar and desktop, to just one full-screen menu. Wow, now that is progress.

    OK, so they based the MPI on some limited statistics, now what will they do now that they have some real user feedback?
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    They had plenty of feedback before they released it.

    They went ahead without fixing those concerns.

    Predictable result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    So Microsoft went from a cascading start menu in Windows 95, added a flexible taskbar in Windows 7, to a full screen 'task bar' in Windows 8. We went from the ability to pin programs, depending on frequency of use, from a pop-up start menu, plus cascading start menu, plus taskbar and desktop, to just one full-screen menu. Wow, now that is progress.

    OK, so they based the MPI on some limited statistics, now what will they do now that they have some real user feedback?
    I wouldn't call it progress necessarily because progress really cannot be quantified (opinions and preference only). I would call it change. So far, it is not very popular, but that may change in 2 or 3 years from now. What will Windows 10 or 11 look like? I expect at some point, they may recode the OS and move away from the NT kernel. What will that look like? What will Linux 17 look like? Or Apple OS 21?

    As far as user feedback is concerned, I think they will add and remove features as they always have. I don't really care what they do. I will use whatever is available to get work done.
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    If it's not popular now, how is it going to become popular in 2-3 years? It would have been so simple to have left the interface elements of Windows 7 in Windows 8, brought in the underlying improvements and left the MPI as a secondary option for the desktop. Windows 8 would have stormed the ramparts and been declared a resounding success. I can't believe how Microsoft completely misread its userbase and was blindsided by tablets and mobile phones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    If it's not popular now, how is it going to become popular in 2-3 years? It would have been so simple to have left the interface elements of Windows 7 in Windows 8, brought in the underlying improvements and left the MPI as a secondary option for the desktop. Windows 8 would have stormed the ramparts and been declared a resounding success. I can't believe how Microsoft completely misread its userbase and was blindsided by tablets and mobile phones.
    There is literally a tsunami of new technologies that will override Win32. The desktop has been demoted to a lesser status although it is not really that way and is, for now, absolutely necessary. Absolutely.

    I think they (at Microsoft and MSDN) have a different view of evolving code technologies.
    The view that the MPI is inadequate on the desktop is misleading since the MPI is not on the desktop. The MPI shares the kernel with Win32 and is given at least equal status with Win32 whether or not one's point of view is that it does not belong on a desktop PC.

    If one does not like to flip pages, one will never like Windows 8 unless Microsoft codes a metro blocker.
    I doubt that will happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I used an Acer All in One touchscreen at my office for a couple of weeks. For some things touch is ok, but for everyday use I won't be switching.

    Smears on the monitor are terrible
    I hate the shiny reflective nature.
    Cutting and Pasting is cumbursome.
    I hate shifting my hands between the horizontal surface of the keyboard and the vertical surface of the monitor.
    Arm gets tired after a few hours or reaching for everything.
    That sums it up for me. Thanks for sharing real life experience.
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