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Do consumers really want touchscreen PCs? (Because I don't

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    That's some magnificent work! I was just getting to that level of expertise when the Windows 3.1 machine I had moved all of my work onto suddenly crashed. I was so depressed I didn't touch a computer from 95 to 96, and never got back into AutoCAD after that, I wish I had kept with it. I lost all of my reference books too, that hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    I create 3D models for underground structures for the subway system including 3D contour maps. Then I also extract 2D views from 3D to creade 2D drawing documents. I don't think it will work on tablets. Haha.
    You'd be surprised. SolidWorks does that kind of thing pretty seamlessly now. I was impressed. I'm sure it could be done off a Surface Pro, and it'll only get faster with the new Haswell chips :>.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I used an Acer All in One touchscreen at my office for a couple of weeks. For some things touch is ok, but for everyday use I won't be switching.

    Smears on the monitor are terrible
    I hate the shiny reflective nature.
    Cutting and Pasting is cumbersome.
    I hate shifting my hands between the horizontal surface of the keyboard and the vertical surface of the monitor.
    Arm gets tired after a few hours or reaching for everything.
    That sums it up for me. Thanks for sharing real life experience.
    Why would someone use touch to cut and paste?
    Who would use touch for hours?
    How many touch users do their work on vertical monitors?
    Does everyone have greasy fingers?
    Can you clean your touch screen with Windex or something?
    There's still this solution to "Can you clean your touch screen with Windex or something? "
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post

    That sums it up for me. Thanks for sharing real life experience.
    Why would someone use touch to cut and paste?
    Who would use touch for hours?
    How many touch users do their work on vertical monitors?
    Does everyone have greasy fingers?
    Can you clean your touch screen with Windex or something?
    There's still this solution to "Can you clean your touch screen with Windex or something? "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post

    Do consumers really want touchscreen PCs? (Because I don't)

    Personally I'm looking into getting a touch screen for my desktop PC. I have one of those two-foot deep glass computer desks with the glass slide-out keyboard draws. Since the desk is only two-foot deep and with the draw closed I can get close enough to my screen to use touch. I have no problems with my arms tiring since I've worked construction for many years.

    Another factor is that I've always disliked the mouse and use mostly keyboard shortcuts. I'm thinking with touch along with a stylus I can throw my mouse away for good.

    What are your thoughts on the article and/or any scenario of using touch at your desk?
    I don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding the word "option" combined with "touchscreen". Look, just because there's a touchscreen doesn't mean you have to throw away your mouse and use the touchscreen for photoshop.

    Look, when the mouse came out, did you have to give up your keyboard to only use the mouse? No, of course not. The keyboard was still very helpful. It still is. Now that we have touchscreen, it sure beats the mouse or the keyboard in certain tasks. But we still type a lot faster with a keyboard, and we still copy and paste blocks of texts and work with autocad and photoshop a lot better with a mouse.

    I don't understand this false dilemma that people are coming up with. Why do we have to give up the mouse or the keyboard because we have touchscreen now? I don't get that. Can someone smarter than me please explain to me why you think just because we have the touchscreen that we have to abandon the mouse?

    Is this the same mentality that because I can marry my long time partner that your marriage will be somehow magically ruined?
    Simply because there is just no need to have a mouse anymore. Sure you can use the mouse, but you have a bloody expensive optional input. You don't get rid of the keyboard mind you, just the mouse. For tedious tasks such as text selecting, that's why they make stylus'. For fine input on Photoshop, you don't use your bare finger as that would be deranged. Professional digital artists that work with a touch monitor (usually a Wacom one) will ALWAYS use a stylus. I'll cite Halo 4 as a game in which the art was done with touch and stylus.

    When you have the two, the need for the mouse is just not there anymore. You can keep it if you want, but that depends on the person. Some see it as an option, some as a primary input.
    Hold on Coke You cannot say that technology will replace everyone's need for a mouse.
    "You don't get rid of the keyboard mind you, just the mouse." That statement just is not true!
    Physical handicaps and medicine could require a mouse.
    I have a Wacom which I can't use because of the hand tremors which are side effects induced by my medication.
    Some days I can't use voice recognition because I cannot speak loud enough.

    Not everyone would be happy buying and using a Wacom type device to replace mouse accessibility left out of Windows OS. Especially when all they know is web surfing, email, shopping and online games. (My Friends)

    Maybe someday you will find your mouse in the 'Windows Ease of Access' folder.
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  6. #96


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    With my mouse, I can zoom in and out, scroll up and down-left & right, , move between pages, mute/adjust volume up and down and stop, pause, play and skip music tracks using only one finger at a time WITHOUT moving my wrist. Touchscreens can't do that. And it's a 5 year old wireless mouse from logitech.

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    The way technology is going, all of that probably might get done with hand gestures.
    Not everyone is capable of hand gestures either. Or repetitive gestures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post

    I don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding the word "option" combined with "touchscreen". Look, just because there's a touchscreen doesn't mean you have to throw away your mouse and use the touchscreen for photoshop.

    Look, when the mouse came out, did you have to give up your keyboard to only use the mouse? No, of course not. The keyboard was still very helpful. It still is. Now that we have touchscreen, it sure beats the mouse or the keyboard in certain tasks. But we still type a lot faster with a keyboard, and we still copy and paste blocks of texts and work with autocad and photoshop a lot better with a mouse.

    I don't understand this false dilemma that people are coming up with. Why do we have to give up the mouse or the keyboard because we have touchscreen now? I don't get that. Can someone smarter than me please explain to me why you think just because we have the touchscreen that we have to abandon the mouse?

    Is this the same mentality that because I can marry my long time partner that your marriage will be somehow magically ruined?
    Simply because there is just no need to have a mouse anymore. Sure you can use the mouse, but you have a bloody expensive optional input. You don't get rid of the keyboard mind you, just the mouse. For tedious tasks such as text selecting, that's why they make stylus'. For fine input on Photoshop, you don't use your bare finger as that would be deranged. Professional digital artists that work with a touch monitor (usually a Wacom one) will ALWAYS use a stylus. I'll cite Halo 4 as a game in which the art was done with touch and stylus.

    When you have the two, the need for the mouse is just not there anymore. You can keep it if you want, but that depends on the person. Some see it as an option, some as a primary input.
    Hold on Coke You cannot say that technology will replace everyone's need for a mouse.
    "You don't get rid of the keyboard mind you, just the mouse." That statement just is not true!
    Physical handicaps and medicine could require a mouse.
    I have a Wacom which I can't use because of the hand tremors which are side effects induced by my medication.
    Some days I can't use voice recognition because I cannot speak loud enough.

    Not everyone would be happy buying and using a Wacom type device to replace mouse accessibility left out of Windows OS. Especially when all they know is web surfing, email, shopping and online games. (My Friends)

    Maybe someday you will find your mouse in the 'Windows Ease of Access' folder.
    I'm sorry, but I have to comment on this.

    It looks like you have a physical handicap, which makes your case and other cases like yours exceptions rather than the mainstream.

    For instance, suppose we are discussing about the fact that passenger ships for the purposes of transcontinental travel have pretty much become obsolete due to airplanes. I have no doubt that there are a hand full of those out there who for whatever reason cannot travel by air and therefore must catch boat rides from Europe all the way to Australia. And yet, those are the exceptions and therefore do not negate the fact that overwhelmingly most people nowadays just fly if they want to travel such distances.

    While I don't think the mouse will go away anytime soon, citing a physical handicap does not really negate that statement if someone were to make it. Just like how some people still insist on using the horse as their main form of transportation (the Amish for example) does not negate the fact that horses as a main mean of transportation has become obsolete.
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    I don't have any medical issues preventing me from using touch, but a mouse is a far more effective and practical tool for a desktop PC. We have headsets now that can replace monitors completely, why isn't that happening? We have voice control, why isn't that replacing the keyboard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pcRat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Simply because there is just no need to have a mouse anymore. Sure you can use the mouse, but you have a bloody expensive optional input. You don't get rid of the keyboard mind you, just the mouse. For tedious tasks such as text selecting, that's why they make stylus'. For fine input on Photoshop, you don't use your bare finger as that would be deranged. Professional digital artists that work with a touch monitor (usually a Wacom one) will ALWAYS use a stylus. I'll cite Halo 4 as a game in which the art was done with touch and stylus.

    When you have the two, the need for the mouse is just not there anymore. You can keep it if you want, but that depends on the person. Some see it as an option, some as a primary input.
    Hold on Coke — You cannot say that technology will replace everyone's need for a mouse.
    "You don't get rid of the keyboard mind you, just the mouse." That statement just is not true!
    Physical handicaps and medicine could require a mouse.
    I have a Wacom which I can't use because of the hand tremors which are side effects induced by my medication.
    Some days I can't use voice recognition because I cannot speak loud enough.

    Not everyone would be happy buying and using a Wacom type device to replace mouse accessibility left out of Windows OS. Especially when all they know is web surfing, email, shopping and online games. (My Friends)

    Maybe someday you will find your mouse in the 'Windows Ease of Access' folder.
    I'm sorry, but I have to comment on this.

    It looks like you have a physical handicap, which makes your case and other cases like yours exceptions rather than the mainstream.

    For instance, suppose we are discussing about the fact that passenger ships for the purposes of transcontinental travel have pretty much become obsolete due to airplanes. I have no doubt that there are a hand full of those out there who for whatever reason cannot travel by air and therefore must catch boat rides from Europe all the way to Australia. And yet, those are the exceptions and therefore do not negate the fact that overwhelmingly most people nowadays just fly if they want to travel such distances.

    While I don't think the mouse will go away anytime soon, citing a physical handicap does not really negate that statement if someone were to make it. Just like how some people still insist on using the horse as their main form of transportation (the Amish for example) does not negate the fact that horses as a main mean of transportation has become obsolete.
    Dude, no need to emphasize that. Just read between the lines. Be sensitive. Your comment is unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    ... I have no doubt that there are a hand full of those out there who for whatever reason cannot travel by air and therefore must catch boat rides from Europe all the way to Australia ...
    I will not fly because I refuse to be touched! But then again, a boat ride from America to Europe might be ok.
    Australia is too far away. I love my trackball. It is huge, the size of a pool table ball.

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