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What a Windows 8 U-turn will mean for the PC

  1. #21


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    Hi Ray8

    The button on the Start screen is in build 9369 (latest leak) -- It doesn't exist on the current W8 system so if people are looking for this they will be disappointed --however IMO the addition of that tiny feature changes the start screen from being a huge POS to something actually decently useful -- and I quite like being able to just type anywhere on the screen and the search is initiated without me having to enter anything into a search box like the search function on the W7 menu.

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  2. #22


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    Yes.

    It would help to get the existing user base to accept this thing.

    Right now it is repelling a substantial proportion of them - for very good reason.

    A button to take users to the start screen is worse than useless. It is insulting.

    The start screen is precisely what many do not want to see.

    The difficulty for MS is , the start screen is the portal to push the users into their online services.

    That is why the start menu was removed - to force users onto the screen.



    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    But in all honesty, would a start menu even matter at this point?
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  3. #23


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    I hope Windows 8.1 re-instates (at least as an option) an RGB font rendering API for IE10, Office 2013 and the Modern interface.
    If not, MS will have wasted their resources.
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  4. #24


    Yes, it does. I don't care about the start menu. I've adapted completely to the new Windows 8 interface, and I love it. But most people aren't tech oriented. And change isn't something they want to see.
    Yes. Resistance to the change is part of humanity, but that's inevitable. I confess that my first impressions about Windows 8 weren't that good, but now I'm used to it and I know exactly what to customize to get it working the way I want and need. Of course I'm looking forward to seeing a better Windows, but I'm quite happy with it as it is now. The question is that the average user doesn't want to spend efforts to customize and learn a new operating system (or doesn't even know how to do it).
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    That's generally what I've seen happen for the past year, people initially didn't like it. But then time went on with them using it, "Hey, Windows 8 isn't that bad!"
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  6. #26


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    Quote Originally Posted by vrosa View Post
    Yes, it does. I don't care about the start menu. I've adapted completely to the new Windows 8 interface, and I love it. But most people aren't tech oriented. And change isn't something they want to see.
    Yes. Resistance to the change is part of humanity, but that's inevitable. I confess that my first impressions about Windows 8 weren't that good, but now I'm used to it and I know exactly what to customize to get it working the way I want and need. Of course I'm looking forward to seeing a better Windows, but I'm quite happy with it as it is now. The question is that the average user doesn't want to spend efforts to customize and learn a new operating system (or doesn't even know how to do it).

    Hi there

    ...........You WILL Comply ... You Will be Absorbed ... Resistance is Futile.......

    SevenofNine in Star trek -- Easily the best looking actress of the lot.

    https://www.google.is/search?q=seven...iw=897&bih=421

    Cheers
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  7. #27


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    Exactly the same


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    -- and I quite like being able to just type anywhere on the screen and the search is initiated without me having to enter anything into a search box like the search function on the W7 menu.
    Search works exactly the same way in W7.

    Maybe your W7 is broken.
    I do not have to click in the Search box.
    I just open the Start Menu and start typing (when I want/need to search).

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    SevenofNine in Star trek -- Easily the best looking actress of the lot.

    https://www.google.is/search?q=seven...iw=897&bih=421
    I actually preferred the first "slug" girl in ST - DS9 (Lt. Cmdr. Jadzia Dax - Terry Farrell).
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  8. #28


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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    -- and I quite like being able to just type anywhere on the screen and the search is initiated without me having to enter anything into a search box like the search function on the W7 menu.
    Search works exactly the same way in W7.

    Maybe your W7 is broken.
    I do not have to click in the Search box.
    I just open the Start Menu and start typing (when I want/need to search).

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    SevenofNine in Star trek -- Easily the best looking actress of the lot.

    https://www.google.is/search?q=seven...iw=897&bih=421
    I actually preferred the first "slug" girl in ST - DS9 (Lt. Cmdr. Jadzia Dax - Terry Farrell).
    Hi there

    She was fine too -- but the relative merits of these fine women perhaps should be discussed on another Forum. !!.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #29


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    The difficulty for MS is , the start screen is the portal to push the users into their online services.

    That is why the start menu was removed - to force users onto the screen.
    There is another big reason - windows 8 was made for tablets, and as you can see, start menu is pretty small, so on tablets it would be too small and unusable, thats why they needed to redesign the whole start menu and to make it big and "touch friendly".

    Yeah, and i dont like that massive "internetization" of offline games (like diablo 3), and operating systems, cause people cant make it good yet from the first time, it brings too much problems and you depend on too many things, it just doesnt feel right.
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  10. #30


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    Quote Originally Posted by startas View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    The difficulty for MS is , the start screen is the portal to push the users into their online services.

    That is why the start menu was removed - to force users onto the screen.
    There is another big reason - windows 8 was made for tablets, and as you can see, start menu is pretty small, so on tablets it would be too small and unusable, thats why they needed to redesign the whole start menu and to make it big and "touch friendly".

    Yeah, and i dont like that massive "internetization" of offline games (like diablo 3), and operating systems, cause people cant make it good yet from the first time, it brings too much problems and you depend on too many things, it just doesnt feel right.
    And there's also the fact that fewer and fewer people were using the start menu versus using the Windows 7 Taskbar and jumplists.
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