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Will Windows 8.1 allow users to boot to desktop?

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    Will Windows 8.1 allow users to boot to desktop?


    Ever since the consumer preview of Windows 8 was available, some users of the operating system have complained that there's no way to boot to the desktop instead of the Start screen. If recently discovered information is accurate, however, that may be changing in Windows 8.1.
    Will Windows 8.1 allow users to boot to desktop? - Neowin

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    Maybe.

    If they do that and a new start menu - that will likely help sales considerably.

    Boot to desktop on it's own is pretty pointless.
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    Why with all the ruckus I think they'll need to. I'm thinking the change to RT was just too drastic for most. It's been reported that 90% don't care to learn the change. Perhaps "weaning" is the word they should focus on.

    The big question to me is will it boot to the desktop portal with a Start Menu or Programs menu? Then what about the Start Screen? Will that remain? It seems to defeat the whole purpose of the RT system if it doesn't.

    Seems like MS is caught between a rock and a hard place playing a game of chess. As in chess, the more one plans moves ahead, the better odds of "weaning". It'll be an interesting game indeed.
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    The desktop is 1 click or tap away. It takes maybe 1-2 seconds.

    The Start screen is your Start menu.

    it takes 3-5 minutes to find, download and install Classic Shell. It can do those things easily.

    Windows 7 still works
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    Quote Originally Posted by sashlon View Post
    The desktop is 1 click or tap away. It takes maybe 1-2 seconds.

    The Start screen is your Start menu.

    it takes 3-5 minutes to find, download and install Classic Shell. It can do those things easily.

    Windows 7 still works
    As I've said before, when everything gets sorted out, they'll realize you have two separate interfaces, and never the twain shall meet. Simply pick the optimal one for the device you're using, and then you should never leave it. If using a desktop, Apps can launch from icons and when they do they'll be windowed. If using a tablet(especially one of the mini ones), perhaps the Mobile Interface is more your taste.

    But they'll spin their wheels until they realize there isn't a unified interface that works for everyone. It simply doesn't work that way. Some people like channel surfing(Mobile Interface), others like control over what they watch on one screen. Its simply different tastes and tailored for different devices.
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    The Start Screen already is a start menu....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    The Start Screen already is a start menu....
    No, that's an UI on its own. The desktop is something and it lacks the Start Menu. Metro & Desktop UI should be separate, not mixed together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    The Start Screen already is a start menu....
    No, its not.

    The start button is a UI element of the desktop which can run commonly used desktop elements along with control shutdown of the computer.

    The start screen is a UI designed to be used in place of the desktop to manage and control apps and applications through the use of tiles.

    Things will start to make more sense when you understand they're(the mobile interface and the desktop interface) two distinctly different interfaces for controlling apps and applications. They simply vary in how they accomplish that task.

    The Mobile Interface is analogous to a TV Guide. You pick the channel you want to watch, it loads the app via a tile in that channel at full screen, and you can flip between apps as if you were Channel Surfing. They're even putting more abilities to have multiple viewports as if you were a producer at a tv network. Which feed do you want in which tv?

    The Desktop Interface uses resizeable windows to contain and run its applications, which are loaded via icons, and allows the user to dynamically control where they want the particular windows.

    It really is simply two different paradigms and ways of controlling a computer. The mobile interface works better on mobile devices, and the desktop interface tends to be far superior on workstations. Either way, there is no reason they can't exist in parallel, so long as they do whats needed to prevent bleed over.

    Apps should be windowed, and to be perfectly honest.. the Start Button should return. Instead of the Start on the Charms menu, have it be Desktop if in the Start Screen and Start Screen if in the desktop. So you can flip back and forth. If you hit the window key it toggles to whichever one you aren't using. But having to flip over to the Mobile Interface to launch a desktop program which then launches the desktop interface is a fairly retarded way of setting up your operating system.
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    Should be separate, not mixed together > ok > your point of view.
    Booting to the desktop bypassing the start screen is like auto launching an app.

    No, that's a UI on its own.
    I really don't want to be disagreeable but, no! Not a separate UI on its own.

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    It's complicated.

    The desktop is something and it lacks the Start Menu.
    Sorry. The start screen and apps area are the start menu for the desktop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post
    But having to flip over to the Mobile Interface to launch a desktop program which then launches the desktop interface is a fairly retarded way of setting up your operating system.
    Flipping as you refer is easier than accessing old fashioned orb contents. Your decision to define the start screen as a mobile interface is completely inaccurate and subjective, so to speak, since many desktop computers are not mobile and it is only your point of view.

    Stating that the new design is fairly retarded is the view of someone who does not like Windows 8 as a desktop Operating System.
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