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The real reasons to blame Windows 8 for plummeting PC sale

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    The real reasons to blame Windows 8 for plummeting PC sale


    PC sales suffered a 14 percent drop in the first quarter, the largest drop for a single quarter in the 20 years that IDC has been tracking the data. Fingers immediately began pointing at Windows 8, but the new Microsoft OS isn’t to blame—at least not in the way you might think.

    Traditional PC sales are down. There's no arguing that. However, it’s misguided to assume it’s the result of a failure on the part of Windows 8. Rather, it's because the definition of "PC" is evolving.

    In addition, Windows 8 runs well on older hardware and was offered at a bargain price. That means there has been less incentive to buy a new PC, even for users who wanted Windows 8. Many who did purchase new hardware for Windows 8 chose a Surface Pro, another tablet, or a tablet-PC hybrid. This skews the data because analysts aren't tracking PCs and tablets as a unified market.
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    It's interesting how words gets around:

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    Your link and quote are exactly the points that have been made in another thread. He hasn't actually tried windows 8, just concluding from other party reports.
    As he is a self acknowledged cynic, with no apparent claims to computer no how, this pretty well sums up the thread title.

    But, for interest, who is "they" "They buy PCs but they don't buy Windows 8."
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    I think this article gives a good explanation and I don't think it is biased against W8. The PC market has been declining for years (compared to an overall growing electronics market) and not because of the OS itself.

    Hardware has been good enough for a few years to not require so frequent upgrades for most users. Most up to 4 year old PCs learn to fly if you just add an SSD. Private and business users use more mobile devices (instead or in addition to desktops), making the desktop upgrade even less needed.

    Nowadays there also is a gray area on what is a PC. Traditionally it was the "Personal Computer" a single employee or user used (instead of mainframes). Over time it became synonym for x86 plattforms (mostly everything not Macintosh). this kind of defeated the "Personal" parts since a Mac also could be used as a "personal" computer.

    now the "personal" computer often is a phone or tablet. They counted x86 laptops as PC, but not tablets. Doesn't make sense since we now also have x86 tablets (Surface). MS doesn't have a problem selling their hardware (surface Pro) and an OS along. the problem seems to be with the OEM who have overslept the trend to mobile devices. Apple, and now MS, have recognized what is going on.

    So yes, my tablet/phone is my personal computer, my desktop is my primary computer and file server if you will. Overall PC sales are increasing (and people upgrade tablets/phones more frequently than they ever upgraded traditional PCs) and MS wants to get into this growing segment.
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    They means people generally, I think.

    I don't know how anyone can pretend the product offering itself does not affect sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    They means people generally, I think.

    I don't know how anyone can pretend the product offering itself does not affect sales.

    Correct, the product determines sales. But so do the alternatives. W7 sold like hot-cakes since the viable alternatives were either outdated (XP) or had performance issues (Vista). the alternative to W8 is W7, and if you use mouse/keyboard W7 really is great. sure W8 is a bit faster, more secure... but not enough improvement to upgrade from W7. this is less a lack in W8, more a praise to how good W7 still is. If someone buys entirely new, W8 seem the better investment since it has much more product life left (ignoring the awkward UI, but this is here to stay, better embrace it for in 2020 when W7 security patches stop)
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    Another key here is that there is a lot of upgrade hangover left in a lot of people who jumped on Vista from XP and absoluely hated it - those people will have a naturally fearful mindset and will think not once, not twice, but three times or even more before leaving W7, arguably the best (consumer) OS ever made by M$, to get on board with Win8.

    I, myself, avoided it for a variety of reasons, the main one being that I was in the middle of writing my thesis for my Masters degree and simply did not want to have to deal with the headache that was going to come from having to learn how to do things a little bit differently, and neither am I ready for an upgrade from Office 2010 to Office 2013.

    I've since graduated, and thesis is done, but now employment is the most important thing - but after that you can bet your bottom dollar that I'll be renewing my old TechNet sub and moving on to new products.

    But too many people that got burned (or personally knew people who got burned) by the Vista fiasco are not going to change their minds, and that is regardless of what you do or show to them.
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    The article seems to assume that everyone bought the $15 upgrade, instead of a new PC.

    If that's true, why don't the numbers reported by the "Internet Visits" collators verify this?
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    The pundits have not correlated the obvious fact that there is a worldwide depression going on at the moment. IMO, the sale of any product which could be regarded as "extra" or nonessential, is well down below normal. I honestly believe that the private user, and the more expensive buyer, are wary at the moment of plunging into any new, or updated product, which cannot be fully justified. At the time of Windows 7 release, economy worldwide was reasonably healthy, and it was time for an upgrade from good old XP. Most had skipped through the Vista period because of it's bad press, and the waiting interval had therefore been extended enough to allow budgeting for an updated product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    The pundits have not correlated the obvious fact that there is a worldwide depression going on at the moment. IMO, the sale of any product which could be regarded as "extra" or nonessential, is well down below normal. I honestly believe that the private user, and the more expensive buyer, are wary at the moment of plunging into any new, or updated product, which cannot be fully justified. At the time of Windows 7 release, economy worldwide was reasonably healthy, and it was time for an upgrade from good old XP. Most had skipped through the Vista period because of it's bad press, and the waiting interval had therefore been extended enough to allow budgeting for an updated product.
    Well stated and couldn't agree more.
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