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Microsoft's Windows 8 approach: Bold, arrogant, or both?

  1. #71


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    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    I don't think it's really arrogance, because I don't think they made the change for their own sake (at least from their perspective) They did it because that's where computing is going, and sometimes people need to be brought kicking and screaming into the future.
    And sometimes companies need to be brought kicking and screaming to their senses.

    Nobody is saying the mobile interface is bad, simply keep it separate from the desktop interface. Allow the desktop to use the apps in the way that its been built and don't bleed between interfaces. Whenever you need to go mobile... say a tablet.. the mobile interface is there and ready. When you need to actually create stuff in a very non-linear manner, the desktop interface is there and ready.

    This isn't hard, as third-party fixes to Windows 8 have shown.

    But if they in any way think that they'll pry the desktop from our cold dead fingers anytime soon, they are sorely mistaken. We will use 7 until the cows come home, if they insist on breaking the third-party apps that fix their software. And by 'we'... i'm also talking about third-party developers of Windows Software.

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  2. #72


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    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    I don't think it's really arrogance, because I don't think they made the change for their own sake (at least from their perspective) They did it because that's where computing is going, and sometimes people need to be brought kicking and screaming into the future.
    And sometimes companies need to be brought kicking and screaming to their senses.

    Nobody is saying the mobile interface is bad, simply keep it separate from the desktop interface. Allow the desktop to use the apps in the way that its been built and don't bleed between interfaces. Whenever you need to go mobile... say a tablet.. the mobile interface is there and ready. When you need to actually create stuff in a very non-linear manner, the desktop interface is there and ready.

    This isn't hard, as third-party fixes to Windows 8 have shown.

    But if they in any way think that they'll pry the desktop from our cold dead fingers anytime soon, they are sorely mistaken. We will use 7 until the cows come home, if they insist on breaking the third-party apps that fix their software. And by 'we'... i'm also talking about third-party developers of Windows Software.
    I don't think they've really done any of that though, other than maybe replacing the start menu with the start screen, which is actually not all that bad. Most metro apps are worthless, yes. But I don't think they've really forced that on anybody. To some people, the fact that it's even available is taken as a sign that the desktop is being destroyed.
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  3. #73


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    I don't think it's really arrogance, because I don't think they made the change for their own sake (at least from their perspective) They did it because that's where computing is going, and sometimes people need to be brought kicking and screaming into the future.
    What's futuristic about this?

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  4. #74


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    It's different than this.

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  5. #75


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    I don't think it's really arrogance, because I don't think they made the change for their own sake (at least from their perspective) They did it because that's where computing is going, and sometimes people need to be brought kicking and screaming into the future.
    What's futuristic about this?

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    Every bit of it. Pun intended.
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  6. #76


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    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    I don't think it's really arrogance, because I don't think they made the change for their own sake (at least from their perspective) They did it because that's where computing is going, and sometimes people need to be brought kicking and screaming into the future.
    What's futuristic about this?

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    The availability of information at a glance, the ability to easily use touch interaction, the smooth operation of the interface, clean design... how many points need to be made?
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  7. #77


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    I think desktop themes created by using the likes of rainmeter look far more futuristic.
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  8. #78


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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisa View Post
    When you need to actually create stuff in a very non-linear manner, the desktop interface is there and ready.
    This isn't hard, as third-party fixes to Windows 8 have shown...But if they in any way think that they'll pry the desktop from our cold dead fingers anytime soon, they are sorely mistaken. We will use 7 until the cows come home ...
    This is a little confusing. Since 8 has a fully non-linear desktop interface, and start buttons are available, desktop icons work, taskbar icons work, start buttons work, taskbar toolbars work, ... what's the beef ?

    Do you think the 7 desktop is better than the 8 desktop because you don't think it's appropriate to install a free start button ? I do not follow.
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  9. #79


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I think desktop themes created by using the likes of rainmeter look far more futuristic.
    A theme is like facial cosmetics.
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  10. #80


    Posts : 37
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I think desktop themes created by using the likes of rainmeter look far more futuristic.
    I thought we were talking about functionality? If it's about looking "futuristic"/h4x0r friendly, then I'm sure there's probably some ridiculous hollywood-made film computer interface that fits the bill better than any of them.
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