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Microsoft's Windows 8 approach: Bold, arrogant, or both?

  1. #31


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    [QUOTE=mdmd;220392]
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I don't use it either but what if one does not have a smartphone, does not have a tablet, does not have a Chromebook or Android, does not have an Ipad or Ipod, or any other device other than your home PC ?
    I initially thought it was kinda nice to have this new stuff. Still do.
    It's amazing that start menus are $4.99 or free.
    But you can do everything you want on your traditional desktop interface, as people have been doing for years; you don't need Windows 8 or the MPI. Microsoft's intent is that you do buy a Windows Phone, you buy a Windows tablet you buy Windows 8 and kneel before the MPI.

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    a proper desktop

    suitable for the enterprise

    Sorry, I disagree. How is this a tablet UI ?

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    Could someone please fix the quote before posting ?

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  4. #34


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    But you can do everything you want on your traditional desktop interface, as people have been doing for years; you don't need Windows 8 or the MPI. Microsoft's intent is that you do buy a Windows Phone, you buy a Windows tablet you buy Windows 8 and kneel before the MPI.
    But I like the immersive channel surfing. That's just me. I like the duality. It is different.
    If their intent was to get me to buy those things, well, that's not going to happen.
    I don't kneel before the MPI, I just like it. There is a difference. I think others will like the channel surfing model as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Although I am upset that someone took my quote and bolded it and highlighted it in red which was not my wish, (completely inappropriate - at least they should fix the quotes...)
    my point was that the presentation of Windows 8 onscreen is like a marketplace not a production tool.
    The tools are there but everyone does not need powershell or administrative tools.
    One can slam and deride social media types but they exist in the millions.

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    I tend to think of it more as a variation on TV Channels. Which Channel would you like to be watching? I personally think its decent for tablet computers and media consumption(it is somewhat TV based after all), but you need something with a lot less linearity when actually working and creating content and simply flipping back and forth doesn't cut the mustard. I need to actually see more than one thing on the screen and constantly having to play snap games doesn't cut it either because that assumes that you'll always have a set breakdown for what goes where.

    I don't mind the Blue Upgrades to help channel surfers watch more than one channel at a time, and for some people that may be ideal, it just doesn't replace the desktop for me, and would rather they simply stopped the crossover between paradigms. And as third-party applications have shown, it wouldn't be hard.
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    They might. If they want to do something to stop the haemorrhaging.
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  7. #37


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Could someone please fix the quote before posting ?

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    Yeah, that has happened before.
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  8. #38


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I believe Microsoft’s motives were sincere, but their decision was mistaken
    Ed Bott has always shown a very balanced view of the Microsoft products. This article is an excellent summary of the Windows 8 problems and the challenges ahead.

    Microsoft’s role as the kingpin of computing is long gone and some already consider it irrelevant or obsolete. Windows 8 and its ecosystem have all the ingredients to change that perception and make the next generation of computing devices very interesting. But even with flawless execution there’s no guarantee of success.
    Microsoft's Windows 8 approach: Bold, arrogant, or both? | ZDNet
    Great article whs. I just reposted it here: More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8 - Page 82 - Windows 7 Help Forums
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  9. #39


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I listened to the Windows weekly podcast and they were discussing Windows 8. They made some good points

    1. Historically, MS has been behind the curve in lots of areas. This time they are really trying to get ahead of the curve and get people onboard in the infancy with touch and such
    2. Had Microsoft just released another Windows 7 and called it Windows 8, the people would complain that MS just doesn't get it and touch screens and such are the future and they are missing the curve and have screwed up and will be too late.


    So, more or less, they cannot win.

    The other thing they discussed was the "death of the PC". As Paul Thurrott said, iPad's sell 100 million and people rave about how unbelievably outstanding sales are, but yet the PC comes in around 78 million and they declare an apocalypse. It is what it is.
    Basically, that's pretty much spot on.
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    [QUOTE=Ray8;220407]
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I don't use it either but what if one does not have a smartphone, does not have a tablet, does not have a Chromebook or Android, does not have an Ipad or Ipod, or any other device other than your home PC ?
    I initially thought it was kinda nice to have this new stuff. Still do.
    It's amazing that start menus are $4.99 or free.
    But you can do everything you want on your traditional desktop interface, as people have been doing for years; you don't need Windows 8 or the MPI. Microsoft's intent is that you do buy a Windows Phone, you buy a Windows tablet you buy Windows 8 and kneel before the MPI.
    Oh boy this is the most absurd thing I've heard in a while....

    So I guess Windows xp and 7 tablets were just such hot sellers?
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