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Microsoft's Windows 8 approach: Bold, arrogant, or both?

  1. #21


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    Eventually they absolutely will have to realize that the vast majority of desktop users do NOT want the lame assed turkey they call metro( or whatever the f they're calling it today) "Fixing" metro won't help Windows 8, period.
    Hard to tell what went on there.

    Maybe they thought people would just put up with it - but the resistance is greater than expected.

    Or, maybe they don't care much - maybe they think desktoppers are a dying breed and just get in the way of where they want to take the users.

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  2. #22


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    I think all they had to do was include a start menu and ability to boot straight to the desktop. Once I did both of these things, Windows 8 was fine. I don't use charms, and I almost never see the start screen.
    The advantage MS was hoping to gain is clear.

    They want everyone in the mobile phone as much as possible. That is how they push their services and their bundled ( read deeply integrated ) flagging products, like Bing.

    Not sure why they haven't been challenged about that.

    Perhaps it is because they are not seen as a threat.
    M$ has also been pushing there Bing desktop on Windows 7 updates also.
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  3. #23


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    M$ has also been pushing there Bing desktop on Windows 7 updates also.
    Yes and unlike previous updates that one doesn't want to install, you can't get rid of it at all. It's just waiting there for you to mistakenly install it.

    I had an issue with Google search; I had to hunt for it so that it could make it the default search engine. I still can't even install it in Windows 7 x32.
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  4. #24


    Germany/Florida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by labeeman View Post
    M$ has also been pushing there Bing desktop on Windows 7 updates also.
    Yes and unlike previous updates that one doesn't want to install, you can't get rid of it at all. It's just waiting there for you to mistakenly install it.

    I had an issue with Google search; I had to hunt for it so that it could make it the default search engine. I still can't even install it in Windows 7 x32.
    I always 'hide' this Bing thing. But from time to time they try their trick again and try to slip it in. But I check all the updates before I install them.
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  5. #25


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    Other than the fact that Bing is a pretty pathetic search engine, here's another reason not to use it: Bing Serves Up Five Times More Malicious Sites Than Google | Gizmodo Australia.
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  6. #26


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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Like I said, doesn't anyone across the pond believe in or like the "free" enterprise system?
    Yes, that is why we are pointing out what is going on here.
    I don't recall anyone demanding that MS be "Nationalised".
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  7. #27


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    Although I am upset that someone took my quote and bolded it and highlighted it in red which was not my wish, (completely inappropriate - at least they should fix the quotes...)
    my point was that the presentation of Windows 8 onscreen is like a marketplace not a production tool.
    The tools are there but everyone does not need powershell or administrative tools.
    One can slam and deride social media types but they exist in the millions.

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  8. #28


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    One can slam and deride social media types but they exist in the millions.
    Nothing wrong with social media - I would not use them though. But for social media you do not need a PC and certainly not Windows 8. A Chromebook or a $60 Android tablet will do.
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  9. #29


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    One can slam and deride social media types but they exist in the millions.
    Nothing wrong with social media - I would not use them though. But for social media you do not need a PC and certainly not Windows 8. A Chromebook or a $60 Android tablet will do.
    I don't use it either but what if one does not have a smartphone, does not have a tablet, does not have a Chromebook or Android, does not have an Ipad or Ipod, or any other device other than your home PC ?
    I initially thought it was kinda nice to have this new stuff. Still do.
    It's amazing that start menus are $4.99 or free.
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  10. #30


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    The start menu is not the whole story - by far not. But that was discussed a gezillion times. A PC is a PC and a tablet UI is alien for it. How would you like to steer your car with a tiller because they are so practical on boats.
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